not sure it’s ever been different , clearly resources are going to be more limited now but the theory remains the same
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not sure it’s ever been different , clearly resources are going to be more limited now but the theory remains the same
NilSatisOptimum
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Ah playing god. Before any assessment, left in care home to drown in their own lung fluid where little to no medical assistance will be available to make passing away more comfortable. People need to watch a recording of such deaths...
"We may therefore recommend that in the event of coronavirus infection, hospital admission is undesirable."
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
There's always the Wombles to bring a smile to the face amidst these grim times.
Chris O'Connor
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Absolute disgrace and many said so at the time. It went ahead almost in defiance while sport after sport was postponing, abandoning or cancelling future fixtures. Crowds of 60,000 in attendance every day - too shocking for words the ultimate in self interest and can't cancel Cheltenham mentality of the big gambling interests.
Some relatively high (and not so high, in fact not heard of some) profile figures have been affected - Charlie Austin, Prince Charles' wife Camilla's ex husband, comedian Lee Mack and the actor Charlie Cooper plus no doubt hundreds more.
The cost of such defiance will be regretted by many for some time to come - causing worry, illness and costing lives
Toast
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Crufts probably hasn't helped the Midlands either.
That shouldn't have happened, trains, hotels etc.
Chris O'Connor
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There will come a time when the damage done to the economy by so much expenditure and borrowing will in itself cause businesses to fail, massive unemployment and potentially ruin a whole generations chances of a future career.
If it goes on too long the world could even see a depression to equal the 1930's with untold misery in both poverty and lack of any hope for a worthwhile future. This will also potentially cost lives and lead others to all the social risks that derive from hopelessness and severe depression.
There will come a time when the difficult balance of permanent and irreversible damage to the economy really will have to be seriously thought of as a price that would maybe cause more damage in both lives lived and lives lost and a prolonged cure worse than the alternative, especially after the peak of the curve is past and the rate of new admissions begins to fall.
If it goes on too long the world could even see a depression to equal the 1930's with untold misery in both poverty and lack of any hope for a worthwhile future. This will also potentially cost lives and lead others to all the social risks that derive from hopelessness and severe depression.
There will come a time when the difficult balance of permanent and irreversible damage to the economy really will have to be seriously thought of as a price that would maybe cause more damage in both lives lived and lives lost and a prolonged cure worse than the alternative, especially after the peak of the curve is past and the rate of new admissions begins to fall.
davek
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Of course we would, because there's been years of runnning down the NHS and social care system under these murderers.
But the LP are much more in tune with international co-operation than the Johnson criminal gang; you can easily see how they'd have reacted with greater speed to developments in China and South Korea and to WHO recommendations.
It’s okay though, as some Americans have already started a class action against the Chinese Government.
I kid you not !
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Found this article an interesting read
What We Need to Understand About Asymptomatic Carriers if We’re Going to Beat Coronavirus
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tsubaki
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I agree with some of this, but the problem is that a lot of this damage is being caused because of the structural problems that were already present within our economy.
If more of the population had secure (ie: not paying a big % of their pay on rent or mortgage) accomodation then they - and we - would be better able to hold out when earning less. If people weren't holding as much personal debt then banks would be less likely to collapse when their customers all find out at the same time that they can't pay the money back. If more people had more secure, stable employment and were paying out less in transport / housing / living costs then they'd be more able (and more confident) to put money aside to support themselves in times of need, meaning that the state wouldn't need to shell out so much in benefits. If businesses hadn't been attacked by "disruptive" firms, fuelled almost entirely by speculative funds, lobbying and successive governments loading the dice against them, then they'd probably be better able to hang on during temporary disruptions like this. If the state hadn't deliberately loaded itself with debt and bills that are way over the odds for goods and services that could be done far better for far less then we probably wouldn't be experiencing the shortages we are seeing
If anyone is serious about preventing damage to the countries economy then they really have to acknowledge that it was in a state already and requires considerable reform.
Well that's a bit of a leap.
It is in need of some reform but even the strongest, healthiest economy could not withstand a month or two of sudden drop off. Of none or very little activity.
Also, a lot of the people on 'zero hour' contracts are ironically the ones who are key workers (i.e. supermarkets) now. I'm a zero-hour contract worker really. But I'm freelance aren't I so I don't really count it as that.
It all comes together and while I agree the economy needs rebalancing somewhat it's just part of the reason. No economy could survive months of a complete drop off a cliff.
Small businesses are going to be the real ones that take the hit here.
Completely agree that the NHS has been underfunded, but at the same time every country - even the ones with the best-funded healthcare - are going to come out of this with thousands dead.
I completely agree and have been saying all along we should have been better prepared. We had two months to get ready and at least give our NHS a fighting chance ahead of then going into lockdown.
Just touching on the last bit on WHO recommendations, while I totally agree that the gov should have taken heed of those warnings (as should Italy, France, Spain etc) the WHO also has a lot of questions to answer. They've got blood on their hands as well.
The issue I have with the bold part is better prepared in what way? We obviously can’t have had a vaccine but how many of the deaths per day are happening due to a lack of equipment/care? If people are dying each day from this and there’s nothing we could do to prevent it then I don’t see how we could have been more prepared.
The spreading of the virus itself isn’t the fault of the gov/NHS it’s the fault of human nature, lifestyle and complacency when it all kicked off.
Martin Alvito
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Some things are more important than rules.
This is the problems with our society in a nutshell. In a just society, this guy's first in line for a flag for putting the people under his command ahead of his career. In ours, he has to fall upon his own sword in order to save lives while his superiors scramble to save their own skins.
tsubaki
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This isnt a complete drop off a cliff, and it would survive for a lot longer if it wasn't so weak (sorry - lean and agile). I agree that small businesses are going to be hammered, but when they were already living hand to mouth is it any wonder?
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