Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Walken]

Yep.
This is precisely why masks weren't generally recommended from the off unless you had symptoms.
False sense of security.
Improper use can also INCREASE your chances of catching it.

Wearing gloves is the same thing....maybe even worse.

I've always found the opposite with gloves, when I work with chems in work if I have latex gloves on I'm way less likely to forgetfully touch my face and they serve as a reminder to be more careful, but I guess that's just a personal thing and the stats say otherwise

 

[RAFUH]

Are they able to specify more detail? Using my example above, does this primarily affect enclosed environments where people stay in repeated close proximity to one another, such as the home or a hospital, or is it everything from parks to supermarkets?

Here's what her was referring to

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/02/health/aerosol-coronavirus-spread-white-house-letter/index.html

Fineberg told CNN this is true, but that research shows that aerosolized droplets produced by talking or possibly even by just breathing can also spread the virus.

His letter explains that research at a hospital in China shows the virus can be suspended in the air when doctors and nurses remove protective gear, or when floors are cleaned, or when staff move around.

Research by the University of Nebraska shows that genetic material from the virus was found in patients' rooms more than 6 feet away from the patients, according to the letter.

Fineberg said it's possible that aerosolized coronavirus droplets can hang in the air and potentially infect someone who walks by later.

He added, however, that coronavirus is not as infectious as measles or tuberculosis.

How long coronavirus lingers in the air depends on several factors, including how much virus an infected individual puts out when breathing or talking, and also on the amount of circulation in the air, he said.

"If you generate an aerosol of the virus with no circulation in a room, it's conceivable that if you walk through later, you could inhale the virus," Fineberg said. "But if you're outside, the breeze will likely disperse it."

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Here's what her was referring to

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/02/health/aerosol-coronavirus-spread-white-house-letter/index.html

Fineberg told CNN this is true, but that research shows that aerosolized droplets produced by talking or possibly even by just breathing can also spread the virus.

His letter explains that research at a hospital in China shows the virus can be suspended in the air when doctors and nurses remove protective gear, or when floors are cleaned, or when staff move around.

Research by the University of Nebraska shows that genetic material from the virus was found in patients' rooms more than 6 feet away from the patients, according to the letter.

Fineberg said it's possible that aerosolized coronavirus droplets can hang in the air and potentially infect someone who walks by later.

He added, however, that coronavirus is not as infectious as measles or tuberculosis.

How long coronavirus lingers in the air depends on several factors, including how much virus an infected individual puts out when breathing or talking, and also on the amount of circulation in the air, he said.

"If you generate an aerosol of the virus with no circulation in a room, it's conceivable that if you walk through later, you could inhale the virus," Fineberg said. "But if you're outside, the breeze will likely disperse it."

Was also reading this after I posed the question, which seems to further muddy the waters

Is the coronavirus airborne? Experts can’t agree

The World Health Organization says the evidence is not compelling, but scientists warn that gathering sufficient data could take years and cost lives.

www.nature.com

 

[Billy Dean]

“Say it, don’t spray it”

Never has that been more poignant

 

[roydo]

Did I just see that? Govt writing off £13.4 Billion NHS Trusts debt???

 

[arminisgod]

Did I just see that? Govt writing off £13.4 Billion NHS Trusts debt???

Yes.

 

[peteblue]

He's getting excuses in here isn't he.

He‘s getting PHE’s excuses out there, however he’s throwing himself under the bus.....

 

[tsubaki]

Did I just see that? Govt writing off £13.4 Billion NHS Trusts debt???

sadly not the PFI debt, just the regular debt

 

[whiteshadow]

Are they able to specify more detail? Using my example above, does this primarily affect enclosed environments where people stay in repeated close proximity to one another, such as the home or a hospital, or is it everything from parks to supermarkets?

You could potentially contract it in either of those scenarios, which is why keeping distance, especially from the vulnerable is so important. Unlikely to get it in a park if you're social distancing as UV light kills it, but could easily get it in a supermarket through someone talking close to you etc.

 

[bullybeef]

Is there a secret competition going on that none of us know about to be the most bananas public representative during all this.

DUP councillor blames gay marriage and abortion for coronavirus: 'You reap what you sow' | The Irish Post

A DUP councillor has said that the current global pandemic has been caused by Northern Ireland le...

www.irishpost.com

The DUP... bunch of jokers!!

 

[orly]

sadly not the PFI debt, just the regular debt

Yep. Reckon the PFI debt would be impossible due to its (eponymous) private underwriting. Would be humongous fees attached

 

[havrey0123]

sadly not the PFI debt, just the regular debt

Pfi that old chestnut,
a company i used to work for got a 50 year maintenance contract with a hospital and were charging 3 figures to change 5 bulbs and still are.

All that money could of been used to help the NHS right now.

 

[tsubaki]

Yep. Reckon the PFI debt would be impossible due to its (eponymous) private underwriting. Would be humongous fees attached

It could be bought out though, something Johnson did himself before (with Metronet). They’d save tens of billions over the 20-30 year period most of it will be being paid otherwise.

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

By chance is anyone here involved with NHS AWP or have any knowledge of secondments in Bristol?

I applied for secondment back to NHS a few days ago and waiting for a response.

 

[RAFUH]

You could potentially contract it in either of those scenarios, which is why keeping distance, especially from the vulnerable is so important. Unlikely to get it in a park if you're social distancing as UV light kills it, but could easily get it in a supermarket through someone talking close to you etc.

Sunlight does not kill the virus. Only a specific type and intensity of UV light does and there isn't enough in sunlight.
Which is good as the UV that does kill viruses damages DNA and RNA so would be pretty harmful to humans.