Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[roydo]

But that's a guess isn't it? I was hoping for some actual evidence.

You can have all sorts of viruses that make you sneeze and cough still. In other words, just cos you have a cough, it isnt always CV. In fact, its pretty unlikely to be.

 

[Tipp blue]

We are recording deaths with positive diagnosis rather than cause of death.

So a patient could die of anything but if the vorus is detected then it's being classed as a covid-19 death. Whether or not it was the cause.

Which given how mild the symptoms can be is not a true accurate measure of deaths. Even if the number would still be high irregardless.

For example Eddie large today. He was in hospital with heart failure and had a heart transplant 20 years ago. He got the virus in hospital and died , yet you wouldn't know if he would have lived or not anyway. There is no way of knowing if he would have recovered otherwise.

It's not necessarily a bad thing recording it like that , it's doing it by the book. After all the country are wanting to reduce the number of cases first and foremost.

My comment was in response to someone who asked why some countries were having less deaths and cases than others,lack of testing means less cases and also less death (officially).

 

[Joey66]

If he has mild symptoms get him on the tv to be questioned.

His symptoms did not look mild plus contagious would you like to be behind the camera ?
He was sensible in using Skype isolated......

 

[Bruce Wayne]

You can have all sorts of viruses that make you sneeze and cough still. In other words, just cos you have a cough, it isnt always CV. In fact, its pretty unlikely to be.

No, that's true, I was just curious how covid spreads if you don't have symptoms. Has the government released guidance or anything, other than social distancing and handwashing etc.?

 

[Shevin Keedy]

I thought this was nice

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-52133766

 

[Blues Harp]

“Boris Johnson is preparing to overrule control-freak health chiefs today amid warnings 'time is running out' to scale up coronavirus testing.

Health Secretary Matt Hancock has finally signalled a U-turn on the screening regime, after weeks of insisting on all checks being carried out centrally.

Instead he has issued a plea for the wider science industry to boost capacity - with Sir Paul Nurse, chief executive of the Francis Crick Institute, saying the government must summon the Dunkirk spirit and let 'small ship' labs in universities, private companies and research institutes help out.

The previous approach was meant to ensure checks are conducted properly, but the 10,000 per day level achieved so far contrasts sharply with the decentralised tactics deployed successfully in countries like Germany, which is capable of up to 93,000 tests per day. The UK can currently only manage 12,000.”

Yet again making it up as they go along.....have any of them a clue what's happening? 30 ventilators though eh Matt?

 

[RAFUH]

How are asymptomatic people believed to spread the virus? Obviously they aren't coughing etc., as that would be a symptom, so is it spreading via their hands?

Yes by hands by touching their own face then other things or you.
Also the normal cough to clear your throat that we all do, sneezing from dust, pollen.
Directly from a kiss even on the cheek type

Things like a big sigh or yawn, even talking if in close contact to someone could do it.

 

[roydo]

No, that's true, I was just curious how covid spreads if you don't have symptoms. Has the government released guidance or anything, other than social distancing and handwashing etc.?

Not that I have seen mate, no. Stay In, Wash Your Hands etc etc.

 

[Kenshin]

My comment was in response to someone who asked why some countries were having less deaths and cases than others,lack of testing means less cases and also less death (officially).

Same principle applies.

Countries like Germany aren't including deaths unless directly caused by covid-19.

Others like France aren't including nursing home deaths for example.

Whereas the UK is including anything and everything.

That's why the numbers will vary from place go place. It's how they are recording the deaths that is varying

 

[summerisle]

“Boris Johnson is preparing to overrule control-freak health chiefs today amid warnings 'time is running out' to scale up coronavirus testing.

Health Secretary Matt Hancock has finally signalled a U-turn on the screening regime, after weeks of insisting on all checks being carried out centrally.

Instead he has issued a plea for the wider science industry to boost capacity - with Sir Paul Nurse, chief executive of the Francis Crick Institute, saying the government must summon the Dunkirk spirit and let 'small ship' labs in universities, private companies and research institutes help out.

The previous approach was meant to ensure checks are conducted properly, but the 10,000 per day level achieved so far contrasts sharply with the decentralised tactics deployed successfully in countries like Germany, which is capable of up to 93,000 tests per day. The UK can currently only manage 12,000.”

I wish they would stop referencing WW2.

 

[summerisle]

Giving ramping up a new definition.

 

[RAFUH]

No, that's true, I was just curious how covid spreads if you don't have symptoms. Has the government released guidance or anything, other than social distancing and handwashing etc.?

US/CDC is considering recommending everyone wear simple masks (not the N95s). This would also take some stigma away - stop folks assuming you are sick if you are wearing one.

However, since we don't even have enough for healthcare workers, first responders, and other essential workers that is hard to put into practice.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Yes by hands by touching their own face then other things or you.
Also the normal cough to clear your throat that we all do, sneezing from dust, pollen.
Directly from a kiss even on the cheek type

Things like a big sigh or yawn, even talking if in close contact to someone could do it.

Thanks. Just trying to get a handle on whether asymptomatic transmission is most likely with those closest to us (which in the lockdown scenario will be family), or whether even with the social distancing in place in supermarkets etc. you're still possibly transmitting just by being in the presence of others.

 

[Joey66]

Just been on some Prem clubs are using the £2500 per month furlow to pay the players monthly wages an utter disgrace sorry if already posted......
They are already on filmstars wages FGS!

 

[Billy Dean]

Yes by hands by touching their own face then other things or you.
Also the normal cough to clear your throat that we all do, sneezing from dust, pollen.
Directly from a kiss even on the cheek type

Things like a big sigh or yawn, even talking if in close contact to someone could do it.

lots of people spit out tiny droplets when they're talking.