Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[peteblue]

I get your cynicism, I do but we have to do something. The status quo isn't working.

Then why did you delete my actual suggestion....

 

[Billy Dean]

Interview last night with a German virologist on the news. He led a study in Heinsberg, Germany's epicentre. He went from house to house with his team, swabbing people but also their houses, surfaces, doorbells, food, even their pets etc. In all the swabs they did of the household, they didn't find any traces of virus on any surfaces that would have been active enough to infect someone, even in households full of infected people. He said so far they haven't got a single documented case of a patient getting infected from a surface and the only way you could get infected from a surface is if an infected person coughs or sneezes on it and then you touch it very soon afterwards.

He was questioning the severity of the measures being taken without specifically disagreeing with them, saying a lot of them don't seem to be based on hard facts. He said so far there's been no documented case of someone getting infected at a hairdressers for example so why close them.

 

[summerisle]

Isn’t she the one who said they were so poor that they had to have the cats put down ?.......hahahahahaha........

Yeah, Michael Gove being the epitome of truth.

 

[Joey66]

Such an erotic word...

It's Americanism word, as they use it a lot over there in normal circumstances of employment......

 

[Nymzee]

Interview last night with a German virologist on the news. He led a study in Heinsberg, Germany's epicentre. He went from house to house with his team, swabbing people but also their houses, surfaces, doorbells, food, even their pets etc. In all the swabs they did of the household, they didn't find any traces of virus on any surfaces that would have been active enough to infect someone, even in households full of infected people. He said so far they haven't got a single documented case of a patient getting infected from a surface and the only way you could get infected from a surface is if an infected person coughs or sneezes on it and then you touch it very soon afterwards.

He was questioning the severity of the measures being taken without specifically disagreeing with them, saying a lot of them don't seem to be based on hard facts. He said so far there's been no documented case of someone getting infected at a hairdressers for example so why close them.

Surely because of the huge number of interactions between lots of people each day within 2m of each other?

 

[tsubaki]

So it's clearly time to liberate the realm of politics from the endless careerist public school boys.

Careerists certainly - surely it’s beyond argument now that it is the modern political class (from all parties) who have brought the country to this horrific state of affairs.

 

[roydo]

I think you're missing the point sir.

Not in the slightest. You think Emily Thornberry is in somehow qualified to "do something".

You use Atlee as an example of a good MP.

I agree on your second point, your first indicates you are the one flapping and has your hair on fire.

 

[The binman chronicles]

Interesting to hear the Welsh NHS bloke say A+E attendees are down 60% in the last two weeks. Shows that a lot of those visits are absolutely unneccesary and it's those kind of things that put a huge strain on the NHS...

To be fair though, there is less risk with mostly everyone staying at home.

 

[Joey66]

Can't argue with that. Except the redundancy bit as I think I'll be due about 30k if that happens. I don't particularly want to go but that would soften the blow and better than going down to 80%.

What redundancy scheme have you been looking at? the government pays the redundancy, is your firm prepared to top it up? as I was offered it in 2003 and it was a paltry payout with 30 years service.....|?

 

[Cool_Blue]

Yeh it’s just one of those things really. Ideally we want a big meat wall of immune people between every vulnerable person but at this point even with testing it’s just too late for me. People are everywhere, mingling, touching the same things etc. Isolating vulnerable completely for 12 weeks was the best thing.

Like today, went to my ASDA, queued up, one in one out etc. no cash payments and all that jazz. On my way out I realised the little green baskets or trolleys we all use weren’t being wiped so everyone is just touching the same thing. We’re just keeping our head above the water at this point in protecting people.

This is why you must really concentrate and not touch your face on the way home, and the first thing you do when bringing your shopping home is wash your hands before touching anything else. Then wipe any door handles you touched on the way in. And wipe your car door handle and steering wheel regularly. I’m paranoid about these routines.

 

[Nymzee]

This is why you must really concentrate and not touch your face on the way home, and the first thing you do when bringing your shopping home is wash your hands before touching anything else. Then wipe any door handles you touched on the way in. And wipe your car door handle and steering wheel regularly. I’m paranoid about these routines.

But what about the food you've picked up in the shop that's maybe been touched and put back by someone else? There's no end to it really.

 

[Yarrgh]

Has anyone seen any estimates on when we can go back to work?

 

[peteblue]

Careerists certainly - surely it’s beyond argument now that it is the modern political class (from all parties) who have brought the country to this horrific state of affairs.

Finally we agree. There should be no thing as a careerist politician, nor parachuted in candidates. I’d sack every single one of them in Westminster and start all over again. We have more than enough really competent business, industrial, scientific, military, creative people to occupy each seat a thousand times over.....

 

[Joey66]

To be fair though, there is less risk with mostly everyone staying at home.

Urm not really would you risk going in with a routine sickness with the chance of catching COVID 19?
I do agree some cases there are unnecessary and the pubs shutting have stopped the minority who abuse A&E with drunkenness, and injuries from being drunk etc.... plus other complaints that are unnecessary, bad backs etc etc....yes it proves most underlying injuries can me self managed... so you have a point, but with the sad news of NHS staff not wearing the correct protective gear - that will deter many people justified or not...

 

[Sentinel]

Then why did you delete my actual suggestion...

It was on purpose, firstly DaveK will be here telling us we're on our way to a police state if that happened.

Personally, I trust government, the vast amount of them want to help. We vote them in after all. Yes there's bad apples, but you're in business mate, you don't always get the right person when you hire. The pool is large enough that eventually we will.

We can all take the piss but there's some great elected officials. Is it naivete? I don't know but come the time come the opportunity.