I’m probably wrong but I think it’s to do with the data/info they can get from people that haven’t got it... or something like that. I think they’re aware there’s still a good chance they’ll get it at some point even after a test.
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I’m probably wrong but I think it’s to do with the data/info they can get from people that haven’t got it... or something like that. I think they’re aware there’s still a good chance they’ll get it at some point even after a test.
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it is the latest, but it’s not really relevant - as you say, determining the impact of this will only be clear around the middle of April
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If we are testing just to see someone has it or not is only good for that moment the test was taken, pointless...
Without a vaccine it's morally repugnant as a choice. Without stoking Godwin's law, the mindset that leads to this choice belongs in that ideaology.
Data from testing doctors and nurses, you mean? Any speculation on what type of data they'd be getting from testing those nhs workers?
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At the moment you've got 25% of doctors self isolating for 2 weeks at a time. We need to test them and the people they are self isolating because of. That could save a hell of a lot of medical time.
Something to do with antibodies? I’m really not sure I think I flirted with an article on it once. Or dreamed about it once. I also dream about chocolate chasing me down the street though.
I think as it stands all the tests they have are for coronavirus itself.
But the test they're focusing on amping up work on (well, according to the CMOs) is the antibody one. That will then be given to key NHS 'frontline' staff first and foremost and, in terms of getting an idea of the rate of immunity in the population overall, will be the key factor long term.
So more immune people = a greater jump for the virus to make to vulnerable people.
Or more immune people = more people back at work quickly = less money the gov need to fork out.
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... and medical lives. Having doctors and nurses who have had it, recovered, are suitably trained and are immune (if that has been confirmed) will mean they don’t have to risk as many non-immune staff.
The flu is estimated to kill between 290,000 and 650,000 people worldwide each year, including about 17,000 in Britain.
From that: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...and-how-long-will-the-outbreak-last-tlpnwxg89
So we're basically looking at a really bad flu year. Potentially doubling your average death rate here. Hopefully we don't get that far and can slow it down.
I'm using flu as it is relevant here. It's the most comparable illness with how it is spread and who it impacts the most.
There does have to be perspective. 2,000+ deaths is horrid and the sharp rise is horrid and it is scary times. But in a really bad flu year this could happen and people would be none the wiser and I do think that's a worthy point. Again, that's not to say we shouldn't all be doing what we're now doing and that this isn't really serious or scary, because it is.
It's surely a bit of both. And both are vitally important. If you have a large percentage of the population with some immunity then you can instead focus efforts and resources into protecting those who are the most vulnerable.
Like I've said, the world can't keep stopping if another wave hits in 3-4 months - that will kill more people in the long run (worldwide) than this virus will. Far more.
That's not to say we shouldn't be doing everything we can now - we should be. But, I think you used this term the other day, it's not just that 'life is more complicated' for people. It's people's livelihoods completely wiped out (I'm not talking about me here - there's people with families who now get nothing at all), and the governments worldwide will be in even more debt. That's not good for anyone either. People will lose homes, businesses, everything they have and any form of rebuilding it too because the economy just won't be there.
People can say 'well health is the most important thing' but it's all the same. People aren't going to get health benefits from an economic crash. And that means less funding for health services etc.
That's just me saying it how I see it ^
Yeh well that's why the antibodies test (which they 'supposedly' focusing on) is the crucial one
Yeh it’s just one of those things really. Ideally we want a big meat wall of immune people between every vulnerable person but at this point even with testing it’s just too late for me. People are everywhere, mingling, touching the same things etc. Isolating vulnerable completely for 12 weeks was the best thing.
Like today, went to my ASDA, queued up, one in one out etc. no cash payments and all that jazz. On my way out I realised the little green baskets or trolleys we all use weren’t being wiped so everyone is just touching the same thing. We’re just keeping our head above the water at this point in protecting people.
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