Well that’s my work shut all next week as well. Seems it’s just going to be a rolling call by the government every Wednesday.
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Not if the NHS is better built to handle it. Which is why the lack of preparation work is the real killer here (and lack of testing).
The gov's plan does seem to be what @whiteshadow suggested (at least, that was the last I saw of it on Newsnight, albeit that was before lockdown).
Turn it 'on and off like a tap' was the phrase used. So that the NHS is never overrun at any one time.
However, the deputy CMO (IIRC) last week seemed to suggest it was more about flattening the curve now, keeping the lockdown measures in place in order to push a potential second wave back from June time to more like July - August.
SO honestly I don't know.
You can say cold and callous but at the end of the day this isn't just something that can be hidden away from indefinitely either.
Firmly believe Dominic Cummings had managed to convince them all that letting 10% of poor and 20% of the elderly die would be a good thing for the economy. Only the sudden realisation that wealth couldn't act as a buffer from coronavirus drove them to change tac
This is true.
But it's a lot of deaths coming at once and obviously the strain on the NHS to try and keep people alive.
Look, 2,000 + deaths is horrid. It really is. But the average number of deaths in the England/Wales for the week ending March 20th for the last three years has been 10,573.
This year, the number of deaths in England/Wales for the same week was 10,645.
From here: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths
I hate to look at it just as numbers because these are people's lives we're talking about, but there still has to be perspective. That is not to take away from the seriousness of this virus.
The lockdown measures - while also hopefully easing the strain on the NHS in terms of coronavirus patients - also works in other ways to reduce deaths too.
For example, less people driving to work, lower rate of traffic accidents.
The country can handle this virus at present but 500+ deaths per day now is definitely a callous and evil approach to non-vaccine herd immunisation. Come to think of it I can’t recall a time anyone’s ever tried herd immunity without a vaccine before.
They’re basically giving the green light on a lot of deaths to get this virus over with quicker as the vast majority of deaths seem less shocking due to age/underlying conditions.
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I’d redo that survey on the week ending April 20th, and then May 20th. Then you might get a better perspective than that from three days before we went into lockdown, when (IIRC) we had less deaths in total from this than we’ve had over the past two days (in fact it might even be less than we’ve had today).
They're not definitely doing herd immunity atm though mate. We're in lockdown. People are only at work if they definitely have to be.
In the long term they might be able to use people being immune (as, if some studies have suggested, this virus has been around a lot longer than WHO say so there's a chance quite a lot of people have some form of immunity) as a way out of lockdown in the coming months. Not now.
The vast majority of deaths from every illness will come from people of old age or with underlying conditions. It's no different to any other but of course there are always exceptions to the rule.
I hate to think where that curve actually *should* be on the graph
I will do (if you remind me).
It's the latest data available.
The CMOs said two weeks ago their aim was to keep deaths below 20,000. We'll have to hope they manage that and then some.
It was always going to be a horrid two weeks (this two weeks) - just have to hope in 9/10 days time the measures we are taking now have an impact.
Never said that’s what we’re doing - I’ll reassess what I perceive the plan is if we start doing on/off lockdowns.
My point was more I suspect, just my opinion, if this virus was being less specific in those it killed we might have seen a different approach towards it in this country.
I'm kinda confused by something. I've made my views clear on testing in general earlier in the thread, but I said I was in favour of testing for doctors and nurses. But I'm thinking, what's the point of that? If they're going to continue to work with coronavirus patients, what's the point of having the test at one random point in time?
Wouldn’t even fit on the picture anymore.
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