Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Toast]

Bloody hell mate, sounds horrific. Glad you got through it and I'm even more glad you're seeing whatever you have now (more than likely you know what) off by the sounds of it.

A lot of people I've seen say they've had similar symptoms to yours have said exactly what you've been saying over the last few days. And day by day they've noted it getting better - sometimes almost miraculously. Sure you'll be on the mend in no time!

Thing is, without testing, we could all just have the flu in our house !

Really is crackers

 

[Paulie]

Thing is, without testing, we could all just have the flu in our house !

Really is crackers

Didn't they say we are passed the flu season and if you have the symptoms now it's highly likely to be covid19?

 

[Neiler]

The most frightening statistics I ve seen today are that in Africa and their ICU beds capacity.

Malawi ,19 million pop has 20 beds. Sierra Leone 8 million has none. South Sudan has 2 ventilators for 12 million people. Medicins Sans frontieres says its preparing for a war style mass casualty situation.

 

[Toast]

Didn't they say we are passed the flu season and if you have the symptoms now it's highly likely to be covid19?

No idea mate.
I would love to know if we had it, and got over it, hopefully and then we could crack on and at least look after my father in law who is proper poorly.
I wouldn’t mind getting back to work as well.

 

[peteblue]

The most frightening statistics I ve seen today are that in Africa and their ICU beds capacity.

Malawi ,19 million pop has 20 beds. Sierra Leone 8 million has none. South Sudan has 2 ventilators for 12 million people. Medicins Sans frontieres says its preparing for a war style mass casualty situation.

And this is the Health Service you get with no economy.......

 

[Toast]

The most frightening statistics I ve seen today are that in Africa and their ICU beds capacity.

Malawi ,19 million pop has 20 beds. Sierra Leone 8 million has none. South Sudan has 2 ventilators for 12 million people. Medicins Sans frontieres says its preparing for a war style mass casualty situation.

They have gone through Ebola though haven’t they ?
Can’t be right.

 

[BrendanGOT]

Back of my mind is convinced there is more to the hospital cases than we actually know.

I've said it earlier but how many cases who have the respiratory issues are smokers for example? That would indeed play a part.

I'm not saying all hospital cases are connected , anything can happen to anyone and sometimes there isn't a reason to explain it. That's why I'd imagine for quite a few people it would be terrifying to go through it for seemingly no reason.

The data won't be available for a long time yet , if at all. There has to be some sort of connection with respiratory cases that turns the virus from a mild cold to a full blown serious health issue. For older generations / health issues it's down to a weak immune system. But how does a virus that thrives in a weak immune system also affect a small minority of health young people when the majority don't get those symptoms ? Has to be a factor there somewhere, otherwise the virus would act the same way to everyone as noone has any immune system to deal with the virus.

I don't think we'll ever get true data, at least not for a long time. The problem is now due to the high risk of infection, if you go in with a severe flu which can give pneumonia etc they're gonna put you straight in the ICU and treat it as a corona case and if you unfortunately die it's most likely going to be put down as corona. Highly doubt they've the capabilities/ resources/ time to test every respiratory death. Add in dodgy/ unreliable tests on top of that and it's a nightmare for true figures etc

 

[summerisle]

Still no questions about this at the daily press conferences.

 

[Goat]

And this is the Health Service you get with no economy.......

Thankfully we dont need to worry about that.

The economy of the United Kingdom is highly developed and market-orientated. It is the sixth-largest national economy in the world measured by nominal gross domestic product (GDP), ninth-largest by purchasing power parity (PPP), and twenty second-largest by GDP per capita, comprising 3.3% of world GDP.

 

[peteblue]

Still no questions about this at the daily press conferences.

It is weird isn’t it......

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

My daughter (apprentice hairdresser) was furloughed on the 21st March. Got paid today but received her full apprentice wage up to the 21st March but none of the 80% furlough money for the period 21st to 31st. She was told that this would follow in due course when received from the government. I’m really not hopeful she will see this money anytime soon. Fortunately she lives at home with us and apart from her mobile phone contract has no ongoing financial commitments( well apart from the money she owes me for her car insurance) Others will not be so lucky so will need these payments to start coming through pretty quickly.

Worrying times ahead in regards of this supposed money for a lot of people I suspect mate, I just hope the government pull their finger out to get this money out.

We pay our lads car insurance as well mate, and his car tax (he's come back home from Uni) I used to keep a little black book of all the money he's borrowed off me and his mum, I've given up now because it meant going onto a second little black book!

 

[peteblue]

Thankfully we dont need to worry about that.

The economy of the United Kingdom is highly developed and market-orientated. It is the sixth-largest national economy in the world measured by nominal gross domestic product (GDP), ninth-largest by purchasing power parity (PPP), and twenty second-largest by GDP per capita, comprising 3.3% of world GDP.

I know, I was forever telling you and other Remainers that exact point In another thread......but that’s for another thread....

 

[xena]

Well this is what I'm saying.

If the government hadn't have taken a 'are they needed yet?' approach we'd have been in a better position in terms of being ready for it.

Mitigating measures would have been, in January - February, to be pumping as much money as possible into the NHS in terms of ventilators, beds, PPE for doctors and nurses, more temporary hospitals such as Nightingale to be there if needed.

We are taking all of the measures we are now taking in order to 'protect' the NHS - basically make sure it can manage the strain.

While these measures would have been needed anyway, we'd have had a much better chance of limiting just how long they were needed for if we'd have been ready in terms of the healthcare system. It wouldn't have stopped the strain but it would have eased it. And maybe we wouldn't be in the situation of thousands of jobs being lost and long-term economic damage which will just mean higher taxes and more austerity.

There was always going to be a lock down we just don't know for how long. Maybe when all these measures are in place and we see how nhs is coping it'll speed up the relaxing of them quicker than we think at least partially relaxing them ie letting more people back to work. Maybe staggering starting hours and finishing hours especially in citys to stop overcrowding on trains and tubes

 

[Catfish Blues]

Doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

The Indian government has to be one of the worst democratic countries in the G20 for being massively out of touch with how their decisions affect their population.

We were there a few years ago when, at something like two hours notice, they effectively withdrew any medium to high denomination notes ( 500 rupees and above I think it was .. so about £7 ).

Caused chaos for a few weeks with huge queues outside banks with people ( including the elderly ) waiting for hours to exchange their old notes for new ... whivh of course they didn't have anywhere near enough.

Fantastic country, lovely people, but a heartless and corrupt govt which makes the idiots we have in charge over here seem like intelligent and caring human beings.

/ rant over

 

[Goat]

I know, I was forever telling you and other Remainers that exact point In another thread......but that’s for another thread....

But all of a sudden you are claiming we have a fragile economy.

Very strange.