CONFIRMED: Moyes Leaving - All Reaction Here

[D410]

Small or big, he built the squad and doesn't have a clue how to best use it.

I,m not a flag waver for Moyes but frankly that statement you,ve put up there is backed up by nothing,

 

[paulbefc]

Now I hugely agree with this but be honest mate do you think we held onto Bily and in all honesty Rodwell for too long? The dithering dave thing?

I think "clutching at straws" would be an understatement when describing this post.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Your bad tempered tirades are hilarious I don't mind you swearing at every opportunity you're a ban waiting to happen.

Your problem is lack of focus caused by ludicrous rage - you're on a computer giving an opinion lad - not defending your lunchbox from the bigger kids.

I've said this to you before READ the text properly and if you really are too emotional try singing Gloria Gaynor's "I will survive" - with make up if it helps.

I didn't mention net spend in fact I clearly qualified my argument on several occasions to avoid it becoming a "house keeping" in isolation debate.

You really are great fun.

Yet more rhetoric, with absolutely nothing to back it up. You've got nothing Nigel, your argument has more holes than a swiss cheese, the lack of any form of fact proves it. Hot air lad, hot air.

By the way, I'd dismount that high horse if I was you, as the post of yours I was replying to was you calling someone an idiot, I merely swore in my post, without aiming abuse.

So would you care to actually counter my post with something other than deflection?

 

[nigelcoyb]

Yet more rhetoric, with absolutely nothing to back it up. You've got nothing Nigel, your argument has more holes than a swiss cheese, the lack of any form of fact proves it. Hot air lad, hot air.

By the way, I'd dismount that high horse if I was you, as the post of yours I was replying to was you calling someone an idiot, I merely swore in my post, without aiming abuse.

So would you care to actually counter my post with something other than deflection?

No lad you missed the boat.

 

[BlueLlama]

Nigel and Hot Dog go head to head in a cliche - off

 

[nigelcoyb]

Nigel and Hot Dog go head to head in a cliche - off

It's so true

 

[Degs62]

I,m not a flag waver for Moyes but frankly that statement you,ve put up there is backed up by nothing,

There's the hook with the bait, and nope I'm not biting.

 

[tim cahill]

Seems to be a lot of people under rating the job moyes has done. Our football in 2012 was the best I've seen everton play, it's just a shame it was a calendar year rather than a season or we would have finished 3rd.

If he goes we'll move on but I'd be surprised if we get someone who does as well as him. There is also the fear that a lot of our players may want to move on, the squad will be broken up and the replacements not being up to scratch.

 

[zirc]

Mate Wenger did loads better when he took on arsenal even today with a team bordering on gash they'll likely do us in the league. More importantly who else has had a decade? Who else was given a Rooney? It's an impossible question to answer definitively because its comparing apples with oranges.

Arsenal's wage bill is like £140 million; they have nearly four times the turnover we have. So their net spend might be lower than ours but currently they are spending £80 million per year more than us on players. They bought Giroud, Podolski, and Cazorla this summer for a total of £45 million.

Ability to pay a transfer fee isn't the only thing you need to get great players. You need to be able to pay their wages (which is why we wouldn't go for Demba Ba or Holtby) and you also need to have a team that top class players are interested in joining. (CL participation, ambitious ownership, etc.)

Wenger came into a team that already had legendary players like Dennis Bergkamp and Ian Wright and had placed 5th the year before. Moyes came into a side facing relegation who hadn't finished higher than 13th in the past 5 or 6 years. Add in the fact that Wenger had sole access to the French youth system for a number of years and it makes the situations not really comparable. Now that he doesn't, he's not doing much better than Moyes.

For the record, I think Wenger is a better manager than Moyes. But he's the only manager that can be argued to have a transfer record as good as Moyes and it's debatable.

He's also trophyless for nearly 8 years, btw.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

No lad you missed the boat.

As I said, nothing, zilch, zero, nada, merely pub rhetoric.

 

[zirc]

Also what's the difference between being 'given a Rooney' and being backed with cash at the beginning of a manager's tenure? So tack on £25m to Moyes' net spend, it's still shocking how much he's had to work with.

 

[D410]

There's the hook with the bait, and nope I'm not biting.

fair enough, twitter and chat rooms are full of throw away one liners.

 

[Michael Bazel Betschart]

Arsenal's wage bill is like £140 million; they have nearly four times the turnover we have. So their net spend might be lower than ours but currently they are spending £80 million per year more than us on players. They bought Giroud, Podolski, and Cazorla this summer for a total of £45 million.

Ability to pay a transfer fee isn't the only thing you need to get great players. You need to be able to pay their wages (which is why we wouldn't go for Demba Ba or Holtby) and you also need to have a team that top class players are interested in joining. (CL participation, ambitious ownership, etc.)

Wenger came into a team that already had legendary players like Dennis Bergkamp and Ian Wright and had placed 5th the year before. Moyes came into a side facing relegation who hadn't finished higher than 13th in the past 5 or 6 years. Add in the fact that Wenger had sole access to the French youth system for a number of years and it makes the situations not really comparable. Now that he doesn't, he's not doing much better than Moyes.

For the record, I think Wenger is a better manager than Moyes. But he's the only manager that can be argued to have a transfer record as good as Moyes and it's debatable.

He's also trophyless for nearly 8 years, btw.

THis.

 

[nigelcoyb]

As I said, nothing, zilch, zero, nada, merely pub rhetoric.

I'm impressed at how fluent you are in saying "nothing" - hardly surprised the amount of practice youv'e had.

Look just to clear the air:

My post at 1061 should help you out.

You don't like my opinion I'm not in the least worried by yours.

But I can't stick bad manners you come into most debate ranting from minute one attacking the poster not discussing the point (you think you do but you don't) you lack common courtesy.

if you take this on board we might get somewhere otherwise it just ends up in a tirade, a complete waste of time.

Gotta go now mate things to do - can't be straighter than that it's up to you now.

 

[Degs62]

fair enough, twitter and chat rooms are full of throw away one liners.

Yep, you're right, must be because you say it with such confidence.