CONFIRMED: Moyes Leaving - All Reaction Here

[IOM]

Moyes is in a very strong bargaining position right now.

His contract is up in the summer. Kenwright must be shaking like a 5h!tting dog behind closed doors ...

If I were Moyes, this would be the window of opportunity to quit IF a change of owner is not found OR substantial investment not forthcoming.

You could argue that Moyes would be in a nothing to gain, everything to lose type scenario if you consider he 'may' fail at somewhere like Chelsea or City where he would receive substantial financial backing. His reputation that he has worked so hard to develop could be ruined in 12 - 18 months at a club where expectations are high but where patience is easily tried.

But Moyes is an ambitious man, you can see it in his eyes ... he desperately wants success with Everton, he knows he could become a legend in the Kendall mould if he just get's that bit of luck.

This summer will be the rubicon.

I see two BIG jobs available come the summer, Chelsea & City being already named above - I'm still not convinced about AVB at Spurs either.

If Moyes does leave to take a shot at one of these then good luck to the man, he's been a revelation here. The music stops at Kenwrights door - I hope he will be ready.

Remember ...

This is the man who bought Everton for £20million, invested NOTHING, imparted debts of over £60million on us but wants £150million in a sale.

Please remember that when Moyes makes his decision.

 

[Ihaters]

That will be why I wake up and always feel inspired to go out and bottle it in cup games and derbies.

Whilst stopping by at the market on the way to buy some very expensive things for very cheap and sell them at a big profit I presume?

 

[Allezfan]

Whilst stopping by at the market on the way to buy some very expensive things for very cheap and sell them at a big profit I presume?

Only if my bosses pay me the biggest wage in the company to do so.

 

[Ihaters]

Only if my bosses pay me the biggest wage in the company to do so.

They do, its lucky your wheeler dealing at the market and your excellent in-job ability brings in massively more money to the company than your wages cost them though.
Especially when the company you work for operates within such small margins, in fact, without you they'd probably be bankrupt..

 

[Allezfan]

They do, its lucky your wheeler dealing at the market and your excellent in-job ability brings in massively more money to the company than your wages cost them though.
Especially when the company you work for operates within such small margins, in fact, without you they'd probably be bankrupt..

I feel like this metaphor has got away from us, to be honest, mate.

 

[Little Ralphy]

In some quarters the new appointment is going to have to better regular top 6 finishes, win cups & beat the Sky 4 away regularly to be considered good enough.......& all this on a budget less than that of Fulham.

Michael Laudrup is very close to achieving all of that this season. Cup final, beat Arsenal at the Emirates and currently 7th. All with a £10m profit in the transfer market.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Michael Laudrup is very close to achieving all of that this season. Cup final, beat Arsenal at the Emirates and currently 7th. All with a £10m profit in the transfer market.

He's done a great job this season, no doubt.

But for every Laudrup there's half a dozen Lamberts......& it is only 1 season don't forget.

 

[D410]

Moyes is in a very strong bargaining position right now.

His contract is up in the summer. Kenwright must be shaking like a 5h!tting dog behind closed doors ...

If I were Moyes, this would be the window of opportunity to quit IF a change of owner is not found OR substantial investment not forthcoming.

You could argue that Moyes would be in a nothing to gain, everything to lose type scenario if you consider he 'may' fail at somewhere like Chelsea or City where he would receive substantial financial backing. His reputation that he has worked so hard to develop could be ruined in 12 - 18 months at a club where expectations are high but where patience is easily tried.

But Moyes is an ambitious man, you can see it in his eyes ... he desperately wants success with Everton, he knows he could become a legend in the Kendall mould if he just get's that bit of luck.

This summer will be the rubicon.

I see two BIG jobs available come the summer, Chelsea & City being already named above - I'm still not convinced about AVB at Spurs either.

If Moyes does leave to take a shot at one of these then good luck to the man, he's been a revelation here. The music stops at Kenwrights door - I hope he will be ready.

Remember ...

This is the man who bought Everton for £20million, invested NOTHING, imparted debts of over £60million on us but wants £150million in a sale.

Please remember that when Moyes makes his decision.

Great post....I suspect that it,s not clear cut that the very best clubs will come in for Moyes and that is what Bill is clinging on to BUT Moyes could suprise everyone and go to a team that has the money to spend but is not an elite club. That would be the nightmare scenario for Bill becuase he his hoping Moyes cames crawling back after beeing rejected by the elite.

 

[Ihaters]

I feel like this metaphor has got away from us, to be honest, mate.

Agreed, you left me few options with your last one so I thought.. fk it have a rant.
Which has annoyed me so I hate Moyes now.. I'm tearing down my poster of Moyes as we speak and will be rallying for him out so we can buy out Pardews contract immediately.

 

[Walter Ego]

Lets get Garry Neville in. He's good on the telly.

 

[zirc]

Michael Laudrup is very close to achieving all of that this season. Cup final, beat Arsenal at the Emirates and currently 7th. All with a £10m profit in the transfer market.

That's not a fair comparison, if we could/would sell players to the rs we'd have rid of Gueye for 8 million, McFadden for 14, Vaughan for 23, and Arteta for 17 and have loads to spend.

15m for Joe Allen, fk me.

 

[blueblue]

I think it may well be Neville...but not Gary.

 

[ijjysmith]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21431345

 

[Deloodid]

The Portuguese, 50, has been linked to United, Manchester City and Chelsea.

is that good writing?

 

[njligernj]

Are those who say "Laudrup" aware that there was a different "Laudrup" every single year for the past six years? None of them seem to last more than one year as the "grass is greener" choice for our new manager. Does that give anyone pause? No? Okay great off we go ...

Exactly, football is a business

It isn't but continue ...

But there's no reason to say a new manager can't bring us success.

No reason at all aside from the weight of Premier League history. There is technically "no reason" I can't sleep with a Victoria Secret supermodel tonight but I have to say from the way the day has started it isn't looking likely.

In some quarters the new appointment is going to have to better regular top 6 finishes, win cups & beat the Sky 4 away regularly to be considered good enough.......& all this on a budget less than that of Fulham.

No pressure then.

I know we've gone back and forth over this a lot.

There actually isn't that much back and forth. People say something crazy, someone says "but what about this" and then the original person never answers. I'm especially intrigued by the amazing confidence people have in the board in choosing our new manager. Not only will they find someone better than Moyes (thus outsmarting all other owners who have hired managers in the last ten years) they will also spend huge amounts of money. Sounds just like them. Given the amount of horrible garbage they've vomited out since they hired Moyes I suspect that hire was more luck than skill.

But in all honesty, I'd be surprised if any manager can get us finishing consistently higher in the league than Moyes does.

We're 17th in net spend (over last five years; we're 15th last ten years), 13th in gross and probably something like 10th-13th if you sum wages and net spend. So there is really no way to carve it up that gets us into the top half. Let's say we're 15th in spending and Moyes has us outperforming that by around 8 places (on average). If Moyes can make us finish 8 places better can a new manager make us finish 3 places worse?

My concern is just based on simple probability. The odds someone outperforms Moyes on the same budget seem very long to me (because nobody has done that consistently in Premier League history). The odds we hire a slightly below average manager? That seems more likely to me ... and slightly below average coupled with what we spend could actually be a pretty huge problem.