CONFIRMED: Moyes Leaving - All Reaction Here

[Brennan]

Ya mate, but as manager, i'd say we'v hardly had one before, wouldn't sit right with me anyway.

I wouldn't like Adkins purely because Ijjy would FUUUUUUME.

 

[Ihaters]

Koldrup Yes, but, bought for 5m, sold for 2.5m.
Yakubu, Nope, scored 20+ in his first Season, I would call that a good buy, then he sulked like a little girl, then get a career ending injury.
Beattie, Nope, bought for 6.5m, sold for 4m.
Richard Wright, Nope, 3.5m, LOL

If that's the wrost of 11 years of transfers he's done pretty well. Can think of several flops that cost more than that entire list has lost us.

 

[steken1]

Jewell inherited a team in the third flight and took them to a cup final and two seasons in the PL. Martinez took over a team tenth in the PL and has kept them in it.

And wages are higher as a percentage of turnover under martinez than under Jewell.

So we can assume Jewell had time and money to spend building a side and had more money available as % of turnover than Martinez who now has to make do with paying better wages but having to at least break even with his transfer dealings in an era where clubs have changed hands and spent fortunes, which weren't the case in Jewells time.

 

[Allezfan]

David Moyes was manager of Preston. We deserve better than that at a club like Everton.

I'm not arguing for a second that we don't deserve better than Moyes. We do.

 

[steken1]

Exactly. Martinez is at best Wigan's second best manager. Arguably he's their third.

We deserve better than that at a club like Everton.

I honestly believe we'd get some brilliant managers go for it if it became available. We wouldn't have to be looking at Martinez, Adkins and the like assuming Bill kept the wage at a similar level.

 

[nigelcoyb]

I'm not arguing for a second that we don't deserve better than Moyes. We do.

They'll be after you with flame throwers.

 

[Brennan]

I'm not arguing for a second that we don't deserve better than Moyes. We do.

I don't really think a manager's past experience is a cast iron way of saying whether a manager is good enough for us, though.

Martinez made Swansea play the kind of football that has led to them being in the Premier League and a Cup Final. The ones who followed him have just carried the torch.

I don't think he's a world beater but i wouldn't be upset if we signed him.

 

[Stend]

The reason he hasnt signed is because hes off.

 

[CahillsCornerFlag]

I don't really think a manager's past experience is a cast iron way of saying whether a manager is good enough for us, though.

Martinez made Swansea play the kind of football that has led to them being in the Premier League and a Cup Final. The ones who followed him have just carried the torch.

I don't think he's a world beater but i wouldn't be upset if we signed him.

We could fall into much, much worse hands.

At the moment all I'm hoping is if Moyes leaves, we at least fall into the hands of say, a Martinez, because with Kenwright still at the helm I don't feel safe from the Dave Jones' or the Gary Megsons.

 

[nikom court]

If that's the wrost of 11 years of transfers he's done pretty well. Can think of several flops that cost more than that entire list has lost us.

So they were all good buys then or mistakes?

 

[Moomin]

So they were all good buys then or mistakes?

His transfer record is pretty much spot on, you can't fault him on that front.

 

[Ihaters]

So they were all good buys then or mistakes?

Thinking more along the lines of Carrol, Torres, Veron, Forlan, Keane and various others. Good buys? you decide.
Said it before, and I'll say it again. Moyes has never had money to sepnd on a decent player, and if the combined list of his entire 'big' mistakes add up to less than those around him have binned on a single player... he's done well.

 

[kenada_blue]

If Moyes leaves he'll get a plum job, otherwise he won;t leave will he?

Martinez has somehow managed to acquire a reputation that imo is baseless at the highest level, He did a decent job at Swansea, but has achieved nothing at Wigan, barring getting old Dave Whelan some decent air time.

But you argued that Martinez was offered better jobs than Wigan because their owners were clueless.

The point was, no one has come in for Moyes. Now he's had to put himself out there in order to entice clubs for his services after 10 years.

Martinez has had progressed in terms of job offers given to him, rather than him going out looking. He's also knocked better jobs back.

 

[steken1]

Bills 'best interests at heart' routine would go right out the window if he appointed a Megson or Dave Jones. He knows how to keep the majority on side.

 

[Ihaters]

But you argued that Martinez was offered better jobs than Wigan because their owners were clueless.

The point was, no one has come in for Moyes. Now he's had to put himself out there in order to entice clubs for his services after 10 years.

Martinez has had progressed in terms of job offers given to him, rather than him going out looking. He's also knocked better jobs back.

How do you know this?