Come on lads, it's time for the wailing an gnashing of teeth to stop.

[windymiller]

Learn your lesson: you see the crescent; I see the whole of the moon.

We need to be flexible in matches, this is the point. A player like Sigurdsson brings more opportunities to play to get at the weaknesses of other teams.

Take a look at our top scorers table. That'll tell you all you need to know about the necessity of a Sigurdsson type at this club.

 

[T LEAFE]

It's always darkest before the dawn.....

But the dawn may only come after we get relegated

 

[Joey66]

It was another loss to a decent bunch of Liverpool players with a pretty untalented Everton team.

This is what happens with the Everton team erected in the last 3 seasons or so with too much cash. This is the Zombie Everton lingering on.

Let's hand Carlo the tools to transform us and get these players out and his own better quality players in.

I dont even consider this ground zero. That happened weeks ago at Anfield with that 5-2 mauling. Decisions were taken then which ended up with us having a genius manager in our dugout. As long as he's backed, he'll get us our position and status back in a couple of seasons.

Five or six of Ancelotti type players in to add to a small handful of the current lot and we'll be a different proposition next season. It's going to get better. Much, much better.

At a weekend our biggest finance deficit is announced.......

 

[Cels]

But the dawn may only come after we get relegated

Well so long as she comes, Dawn will be happy

 

[catcherintherye]

Dave the problem goes deeper than the manager.

The Chairman of the club presides over a rotten culture. It is now trickling down.

 

[T LEAFE]

At a weekend our biggest finance deficit is announced.......

But I’m sure we are due some good news on BMD tomorrow to cheer us up

 

[BlueStevie35]

Not one of them gets in their first choice 11, not one. So half of their second 11 and a handful of youth prospects goes in the acceptable losses column now. We really are terrible then.

Gomez has started 8 of their last 10 games, Origi, Milner, Oxlaide-Chamberlain, Lallana all started or been subbed on in the same period, Adrian has had 10 starts for them this season when Allison has been injured, suspended or rested

 

[T LEAFE]

We are the next Bury

 

[Deleted member 38674]

Not true, this was a Liverpool side that was hammered by Villa.

Somebody stop this absolute fallacy.

TWO players played in the Villa game. TWO.

Gomez has started 8 of their last 10 games, Origi, Milner, Oxlaide-Chamberlain, Lallana all started or been subbed on in the same period, Adrian has had 10 starts for them this season when Allison has been injured, suspended or rested

Not a single one of them are starters.

 

[bicycleheader]

It's the complete, and utter lack of fight @davek that concerns me most.

Changing players / systems etc. is one thing, changing the mentality of players is something else.

we have to hope the worst culprits are gone by the start of next season and the change is instilled from thereon in by a manager who commands respect

 

[Kever10]

Very true, just a shame it's going to be so hard to ship certain players out due to age and wages

Really did get f***ed over in this regard

Koeman really did do a number on us. Up there with Mike Walker in worst managers we've ever had.

Edit.

On 2nd thoughts, Walker, with much less money, signed Ferguson on loan, Limpar and Parkinson for less than £2m combined. Koeman bought Pickford, Keane, Williams, Schneiderlin, Sigurdsson, Klassen, Sandro and Bolasie for £200...

He wins... Hands down

 

[ADT]

People's frustration mainly comes from the fact that that was the best chance we are ever going to get at beating that shower and we've blown it yet again

 

[Joey66]

But I’m sure we are due some good news on BMD tomorrow to cheer us up

Yes it will be the best ground in the championship at this rate ....

 

[bicycleheader]

I think after the Burnley/Newcastle games people think we are cruising, We are 5 points from Bournemouth in 19th

we are not going to be in a relegation battle ffs

we weren’t before we booted Silva and we def won’t be now

 

[Joey66]

People's frustration mainly comes from the fact that that was the best chance we are ever going to get at beating that shower and we've blown it yet again

I've been there 2-0 up playing them off the park only 14 minutes left and got beat 3-2 ... Everton fans cried that day me included.....