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Despite @Barry Rathbone 's ignorant ramblings about "empirical" data and how he views CO2 from ice cores as the only way to measure global warming (notwithstanding repeated attempts by those here to point out that this reasoning is fallacious) we now have yet another peer-reviewed paper based on empirical evidence that does not rely on ice core temperatures and shows that the world's temperatures are getting warmer as registered in ocean temperatures. Note: ocean temperatures are especially important to measure--a cup of air cools off faster than a cup of water, so when ocean's heat up, they keep their heat for longer--though these simple thermodynamic issues are lost on Rathbone. This research also shows that the uptick in temperatures is not due to Milankovitch cycles and thus cannot be ascribed to "natural processes"--the lazy climate-change-denialist go-to statement when failing to understand how climate works.

The trigger words in the paper, which will set Rathbone off are the following: modeling, bias, simulation. In science, using a "model" is as routine as collecting data--every single statistical analysis is a model; to Barry a "model" is suspicious plot by an evil cabal of scientists. In science "bias" means that a statistical model is underfit and thus doesn't describe the data adequately; to Barry "bias" is likely to mean "hahahah, see you're wrong, because there is word that is used that I don't understand but sounds fishy...hahahah [insert idiotic emoji]." In science, "simulation" is a projection or approximation of a dynamic phenomenon; to Barry, "simulation" is likely to mean that he got the VR megapack for his Play Station.

Here is the paper:

And I'm quite certain that @Barry Rathbone will disengage the "ignore" function from time to time to check-in on this thread, if only to satisfy his Dunning-Kruger level of self-righteousness. He'll quickly "re-ignore" after reading over these posts. AmIright, Barry?
 
Despite @Barry Rathbone 's ignorant ramblings about "empirical" data and how he views CO2 from ice cores as the only way to measure global warming (notwithstanding repeated attempts by those here to point out that this reasoning is fallacious) we now have yet another peer-reviewed paper based on empirical evidence that does not rely on ice core temperatures and shows that the world's temperatures are getting warmer as registered in ocean temperatures. Note: ocean temperatures are especially important to measure--a cup of air cools off faster than a cup of water, so when ocean's heat up, they keep their heat for longer--though these simple thermodynamic issues are lost on Rathbone. This research also shows that the uptick in temperatures is not due to Milankovitch cycles and thus cannot be ascribed to "natural processes"--the lazy climate-change-denialist go-to statement when failing to understand how climate works.

The trigger words in the paper, which will set Rathbone off are the following: modeling, bias, simulation. In science, using a "model" is as routine as collecting data--every single statistical analysis is a model; to Barry a "model" is suspicious plot by an evil cabal of scientists. In science "bias" means that a statistical model is underfit and thus doesn't describe the data adequately; to Barry "bias" is likely to mean "hahahah, see you're wrong, because there is word that is used that I don't understand but sounds fishy...hahahah [insert idiotic emoji]." In science, "simulation" is a projection or approximation of a dynamic phenomenon; to Barry, "simulation" is likely to mean that he got the VR megapack for his Play Station.

Here is the paper:

And I'm quite certain that @Barry Rathbone will disengage the "ignore" function from time to time to check-in on this thread, if only to satisfy his Dunning-Kruger level of self-righteousness. He'll quickly "re-ignore" after reading over these posts. AmIright, Barry?
Yes, but the problem is, Barry doesn't want to learn. Barry has an opinion and he frantically googles whatever scraps he can to support his view. If this involves taking things out of context, deliberately misquoting or completely ignoring the facts which don't suit his opinion then so be it.

I feel that the truth is actually too difficult for Barry to accept, and he can sleep easier if he believes it is not true. And facts just get in the way of it, so they are ignored.

I thought I may be able to have an intelligent discussion with him. Unfortunately it was akin to Ancelloti getting told where he was going wrong by Davek. Sometimes you just have to shake your head, admit you can't fix stupid and walk away.
 
Yeah but...
Are we going to give up flying,driving,buying the latests tech,cloths and other consumables we like the look of but don't really need? Seems now the trees you buy to offset a flght take 10 years+ to have any noticable effect.Growing population with aspirations to join the tech elite would point towards the fact we are doomed.Unless we all take a 100 years step backwards that is.I'm considering going into the donkey and cart business.
 
Are we going to give up flying,driving,buying the latests tech,cloths and other consumables we like the look of but don't really need? Seems now the trees you buy to offset a flght take 10 years+ to have any noticable effect.Growing population with aspirations to join the tech elite would point towards the fact we are doomed.Unless we all take a 100 years step backwards that is.I'm considering going into the donkey and cart business.
or a 100 year step forward, in the right direction
 
or a 100 year step forward, in the right direction
It appears like a game of snakes and ladders,use electric cars which need batteries and their constituent parts shipped thousands of miles,plus the carbon emmisions of the manufacturing process,generate electricity with solar panels,which again involve transport and manufacturing carbon emmisions,go nuclear,but where to you dispose of the spent fuel? And on and on.
 
You are literally GoT’s worst poster, and your posts make me feel like I have Alex Jones breathing CO2 into my eyeballs.
Glad you took the time to avoid the question and confirm the irrational hostility so prevalent with you people the desperation to hoist yourself by your own petard may be puzzling to some but not me you just lack basic reasoning and logic

Time to join the equally irate on the naughty step you naughty little munchkin ... ciao baby. lol
 
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