Current Affairs Climate Change Demonstrations.....

[Yid4life]

Oh right so it is a class issue with you? I do non't give a f*** who or what they are, they are taking time out of their lives while people like you ridicule them for it.

It sounds like if it was up to you nothing would be getting done at all.

Calm down fella. Think of your blood pressure.

I think you will find the only time I have ridiculed them is for this ridiculous stunt. Impacting commuters using electric public transport.

They deserved a slap and got one.

Go and protest outside of the BP or Shell offices. Or something relevant.

 

[sageyefc]

Not sure if anyone else has ever asked you but...

Are you that guy steve0?

I remember when I joined last year reading some edgy stuff that got him into strive with other posters. Your posting seems similar. That and you are posting in the exact threads he did religiously especially the witch hunt one.

The giveaway has to be the picture. Isn't your avatar just a cartoony version of the one he used. Seems far fetched that two different users are big fans of same guy that they use the exact same avatar.

I suspect he is the racist formerly known as @Steveo

 

[sageyefc]

@bol-uk are you mr broccoli?

 

[BlueToff]

Yeh cos peacefull protests always get results. The government and Murdoch would love people like, toeing the party line for them.

It's not about 'peaceful'. It's about abiding the law. They're not doing that.

There's better ways to make a point than standing on a train - public transport ffs! - in a working-class area of one of the busiest cities on the planet. Like I've said, we aren't now talking about climate change, we're talking about these divvies.

People are acting like we live in a dictatorship and I'm sick of it. Weirdly enough, it's often the ones that only seem to like democracy when it goes their way, too.

Is climate change an issue? Of course it is. Are we the root cause? Well, no, that's absolutely ludicrous to believe, but do we have to lessen our impact and try and counter the effects? Yes. We absolutely should do.

But going net carbon neutral by 2025 is going to be pretty much impossible. It would mean a radical change in life and in all honesty we don't come close to being the biggest polluters on the planet.

 

[BlueToff]

Every single house I drive past or deliver to has 2 recycling boxes out once a week. The use of new plastic bags for shopping has plummeted. Hardly a week goes by when a new electric charger is lobbed up at a company's parking lot.

My local council recycles close to 70% of all household waste.

So the message is getting across, and getting up the nose of normal people will do squat to further that.

People are absolutely sick of self-righteous jobsworths with too much time on their hands telling them they're evil. It's like they've got bored of shouting at Westminster and waving EU flags and are now onto this.

Like you say, we live in a country that is at the forefront of trying to tackle climate change. It's probably not enough and we need to do more, though the issue remains climate change is a thing that we only have so much control over. The planet has always and will always heat up and cool down. We're as a species expediating that and have to try and counter it.

But yeh, going and standing on a train isn't the answer. Neither is loitering where you've been told isn't allowed blocking roads and access. They were given their time to use those spaces and then took the p***. Then it meant police from all over the country having to go down because they were committing criminal offences, end of. I'm glad to see they've cancelled their Gatwick protests because maybe they finally realise it's in no way gonna get anyone on side.

 

[Ruairi77]

It's not about 'peaceful'. It's about abiding the law. They're not doing that.

There's better ways to make a point than standing on a train - public transport ffs! - in a working-class area of one of the busiest cities on the planet. Like I've said, we aren't now talking about climate change, we're talking about these divvies.

People are acting like we live in a dictatorship and I'm sick of it. Weirdly enough, it's often the ones that only seem to like democracy when it goes their way, too.

Is climate change an issue? Of course it is. Are we the root cause? Well, no, that's absolutely ludicrous to believe, but do we have to lessen our impact and try and counter the effects? Yes. We absolutely should do.

But going net carbon neutral by 2025 is going to be pretty much impossible. It would mean a radical change in life and in all honesty we don't come close to being the biggest polluters on the planet.

of course we're talking about climate change.
what these people did was stupid. I'm fairly sure they knew it was stupid, I'm also fairly sure that they also knew the more annoying their protest, the more awareness it would generate.

 

[Ruairi77]

People are absolutely sick of self-righteous jobsworths with too much time on their hands telling them they're evil. It's like they've got bored of shouting at Westminster and waving EU flags and are now onto this.

Like you say, we live in a country that is at the forefront of trying to tackle climate change. It's probably not enough and we need to do more, though the issue remains climate change is a thing that we only have so much control over. The planet has always and will always heat up and cool down. We're as a species expediating that and have to try and counter it.

But yeh, going and standing on a train isn't the answer. Neither is loitering where you've been told isn't allowed blocking roads and access. They were given their time to use those spaces and then took the p***. Then it meant police from all over the country having to go down because they were committing criminal offences, end of. I'm glad to see they've cancelled their Gatwick protests because maybe they finally realise it's in no way gonna get anyone on side.

sooo, you're saying they are right but they are annoying?

 

[ClausThomsen]

Every single house I drive past or deliver to has 2 recycling boxes out once a week. The use of new plastic bags for shopping has plummeted. Hardly a week goes by when a new electric charger is lobbed up at a company's parking lot.

My local council recycles close to 70% of all household waste.

So the message is getting across, and getting up the nose of normal people will do squat to further that.

We can cut the number of bags we use to carry the weekly shop but it's all academic when dumping more landfill, extra runways, cheap commercial flights, importing tonnes of cheap plastic tat from the other side of the world are still done and Governments bend over backwards to create nonsense like Carbon Trading.

The Extinction protests are designed to disrupt and annoy as peaceful regimented protests lead to nothing but token gestures as it's clear to anyone that the economy and capitalism are first and foremost in the minds of those with the actual power to change things and will remain so as long as those who oppose that train of thought do so in a convenient and easily managed way.

The protests have their fair share of idiots but it's clear that there is no appetite among the powers that be to make the changes that the scientific community seem to largely agree on.

 

[Sy-]

Oh right so it is a class issue with you? I do non't give a f*** who or what they are, they are taking time out of their lives while people like you ridicule them for it.

It sounds like if it was up to you nothing would be getting done at all.

The issue is you have to be a grade A moron to deliberately p!** off London commuters, the most ready-to-snap people on the planet.

Any cause goes out the window when you display that level of arrogance.

 

[roydo]

sooo, you're saying they are right but they are annoying?

That would be my take if they knackered my commute.

 

[BlueToff]

of course we're talking about climate change.
what these people did was stupid. I'm fairly sure they knew it was stupid, I'm also fairly sure that they also knew the more annoying their protest, the more awareness it would generate.

But we aren't are we?

Talking about climate change would be talking about potential ways forward, potential ways to achieve our net carbon-neutral goals.

I don't hear/see any of that. Not from anyone in the public who has been annoyed by these people or even admire them, or by the protestors themselves, who just seem to scream and shout and get more radical.

So no. We aren't really talking about climate change. We're talking about the protestors. Surely there's a difference?

 

[roydo]

The protests have their fair share of idiots but it's clear that there is no appetite among the powers that be to make the changes that the scientific community seem to largely agree on.

Sorry, but in the UK and the EU, that is patent nonsense.

These loons should fly, well, walk, to China and start up over there.

 

[BlueToff]

sooo, you're saying they are right but they are annoying?

No, I don't actually believe they are right.

Their 'demands' frankly border on ridiculous. And they aren't actually offering any solutions. Just shouting and screaming.

Am I ignorant enough to say climate change isn't an issue? No of course not. And I respect their right to try and push for more to be done.

But why not do it in a reasonable way? And don't say they've been trying to, because they haven't. They've gone straight from one extreme to the other.

But heck, it's 2019. Extremes are the new norm, I suppose.

 

[BlueToff]

Sorry, but in the UK and the EU, that is patent nonsense.

These loons should fly, well, walk, to China and start up over there.

Nah, it's only the west that are evil, Roydo

 

[Ruairi77]

But we aren't are we?

Talking about climate change would be talking about potential ways forward, potential ways to achieve our net carbon-neutral goals.

I don't hear/see any of that. Not from anyone in the public who has been annoyed by these people or even admire them, or by the protestors themselves, who just seem to scream and shout and get more radical.

So no. We aren't really talking about climate change. We're talking about the protestors. Surely there's a difference?

mate, we are talking about climate change, just look at your last few posts, yea, you're not happy about the protesters or their protests but you've expressed your view on climate change and how we need to do more.