dead_soft
Player Valuation: £35m
They really don't have many aims. They have very succinct demands. Why is it undeliverable in the timescale? Why is it unpalatable?
Do you think they should do nothing because it's too difficult?
Current Affairs Climate Change Demonstrations.....
- Thread starter peteblue
- Start date
- Status
They really don't have many aims. They have very succinct demands. Why is it undeliverable in the timescale? Why is it unpalatable?
Do you think they should do nothing because it's too difficult?
Well yes. But just for the record, nobody is fracking coal.
bol-uk
Player Valuation: £50m
Someone else’s post
My friend took this photo on her walk from work - #Westminster.
Another friend wrote the below which summarises the same repeated questions people have about Extinction Rebellion.
“1) Yes, they have a job. They took time off as holiday. If they are employed by someone else that means they don't get a holiday this year. If they are self employed it means they lose money. In reality most people only usually go for 2-5 days because they have jobs and businesses and families. Some people gave up their job and all their income to work on this full time. They get their expenses paid but not a salary.
2) Climate change is NOT NATURAL. If you dont like the posh people or hippies who are occasionally shown in footage maybe you can stomach Sir David Attenborough (even though he's arguably pretty posh)...Watch his BBC documentary.. 15,000 climate scientists said in 2017 that we had 12 years left to turn this around. We are about to click into 9 years and this government hasn't done anything.
3) People are VERY concerned with how protestors got there and what they are wearing. Most probably went by train or bus. Some might have gone in a car. Every single one of them will not be 'perfect'. The fact is, we shouldn't have to all have individual responsibility for being 'perfect' when we live in such an imperfect world. The reason these people are protesting is because they're asking for the legislative changes that would ensure clean public transport, plastic free clothing and so so much more.
4) THEY LET THE AMBULANCES THROUGH. EVERY TIME. Every single ambulance station is warned in advance of where blockades will be so that they can make alternative arrangements but if they need to come through for whatever reason they are let through instantly.
5) It's annoying. YES. It is bloody annoying. And no one wants to be annoying. Most people just want to be happy and make others happy and live easily and friendly. But nothing else has worked.” Well said Jessie Docherty.
My friend took this photo on her walk from work - #Westminster.
Another friend wrote the below which summarises the same repeated questions people have about Extinction Rebellion.
“1) Yes, they have a job. They took time off as holiday. If they are employed by someone else that means they don't get a holiday this year. If they are self employed it means they lose money. In reality most people only usually go for 2-5 days because they have jobs and businesses and families. Some people gave up their job and all their income to work on this full time. They get their expenses paid but not a salary.
2) Climate change is NOT NATURAL. If you dont like the posh people or hippies who are occasionally shown in footage maybe you can stomach Sir David Attenborough (even though he's arguably pretty posh)...Watch his BBC documentary.. 15,000 climate scientists said in 2017 that we had 12 years left to turn this around. We are about to click into 9 years and this government hasn't done anything.
3) People are VERY concerned with how protestors got there and what they are wearing. Most probably went by train or bus. Some might have gone in a car. Every single one of them will not be 'perfect'. The fact is, we shouldn't have to all have individual responsibility for being 'perfect' when we live in such an imperfect world. The reason these people are protesting is because they're asking for the legislative changes that would ensure clean public transport, plastic free clothing and so so much more.
4) THEY LET THE AMBULANCES THROUGH. EVERY TIME. Every single ambulance station is warned in advance of where blockades will be so that they can make alternative arrangements but if they need to come through for whatever reason they are let through instantly.
5) It's annoying. YES. It is bloody annoying. And no one wants to be annoying. Most people just want to be happy and make others happy and live easily and friendly. But nothing else has worked.” Well said Jessie Docherty.
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
*Johnson
dandydan
Player Valuation: £40m
They have no point. Well, except for providing frustrated wives in need of a bit of masculinity on the side.
dandydan
Player Valuation: £40m
lollollollollol
dead_soft
Player Valuation: £35m
Ah yeah, forgot you were a silly boy.
Laugh all you want. Your avatar is pretty much exclusively used by white supremacist scumbags
Points 4 and 5 are absolutely ridiculous. Especially 4. I hope an ambulance never has to take a detour or deal with a blockade for their sake. It's just absolutely naive to think you can create a blockade and not have an impact on response time. It's shockingly stupid.
Protesting is respectable. However, people and public services have just as much if not more of a right to function than your protest. If you blockade traffic for hours that ambulance is inevitably going to get delayed going to the person in need.
It's common sense and disrespectful to everyone else in society. Even those who are inclined to agree with the protesters.
Although I agree with nearly everything you say it has to be said that..
In most cities, in most civilized countries the police work with the city when a protest happens. They look over the plans and talk to the group organising it to hash out what they are looking for and where they want to be.
They do this for the very reason to make sure a) its peaceful, b) controlled and c) they can reroute traffic which includes emergency services.
It would be the spontaneous protest or those that dont seek the right permission that would be the most disruptive and cause the cops and emergency services the most headaches, but even then the cops would relay the message.
Most US cities have direct alternative routes too so I wouldn't see this as even being a big headache for them. I am guessing the UK has minor roads for them to take detours. Unless of course there is someone hurt the other side of the protest.
It would be the sort of protests like we saw in Hong kong which would ultimately be the type that causes the biggest headaches given the sheer numbers and thus most alternative routes would be blocked too.
That said for those that seek permission and permits I am fine them causing disruption within reason.
Again though I do agree with the sentiment you are making though
bol-uk
Player Valuation: £50m
They spoke to all the emergency services beforehand who then found alternative routes in advance. Simple really mate.
bol-uk
Player Valuation: £50m
So all the scientists are wrong but you and trump are somehow right?
bol-uk
Player Valuation: £50m
Eh... it's really not. Alternative routes are never the quickest, hope it never happens to one of your loved ones, "mate"
- Status