Cheltenham 1-5 Everton. 7th Jan @ 19.45.

[anton66]

Lets hope Moyes doesn't make too many changes as we havn't got van persie to come on and rescue us.

 

[Dan Sylveste]

you cannot deny that we put in better performances against the chelsea's, spurs, arsenals, and mancs of the league than against the readings, stokes or wigans that is not even debatable this season surely?

IMO, that´s not in any way a result of any form of underestimation on behalf of Moyes or the players, but rather because we find it harder to deal with the defend and counter attack strategy than the open football played by the more technically adept sides in the league.

If anything I think Moyes by this point will be rather severe in giving games against lower half opposition thorough preparation.

 

[ToffeeBlueNose]

IMO, that´s not in any way a result of any form of underestimation on behalf of Moyes or the players, but rather because we find it harder to deal with the defend and counter attack strategy than the open football played by the more technically adept sides in the league.

If anything I think Moyes by this point will be rather severe in giving games against lower half opposition thorough preparation.

This just isn't true stoke and reading, wigan in the first game put us under a great deal of sustained pressure in those matches they didn't just sit back and defend and that's because we seem to wilt when teams play a pressing game against us.

Maybe the bigger sides don't press as much and allows us to play so in that case that shows a lack of composure by our players when put under pressure and it's no coincidence that we then revert to long balls. When Phil Neville is one of your midfielders the back 4 don't trust to pass it to his feet so they lump it.

 

[Allezfan]

This just isn't true stoke and reading, wigan in the first game put us under a great deal of sustained pressure in those matches they didn't just sit back and defend and that's because we seem to wilt when teams play a pressing game against us.

Maybe the bigger sides don't press as much and allows us to play so in that case that shows a lack of composure by our players when put under pressure and it's no coincidence that we then revert to long balls. When Phil Neville is one of your midfielders the back 4 don't trust to pass it to his feet so they lump it.

We played a lot better against reading then you seem to remember. We should have gone into half time 6-0 up.

 

[ToffeeBlueNose]

We played a lot better against reading then you seem to remember. We should have gone into half time 6-0 up.

but we didn't and got beat because second half we played like we thought it was so easy first half we didn't need to bother. This has been the case on more than one occasion this season, when we know the football we are capable of it's frustrating to see us play so badly.

This is the next step to us actually becoming a regular top 4 contender, consistency. we don't have any.

 

[grandjoeblue]

Big Vic will slot hat trick tonight

A Big Vic hat trick is what dreams are made of. I'd still settle for him scoring a derby winner.

 

[meagher94]

but we didn't and got beat because second half we played like we thought it was so easy first half we didn't need to bother. This has been the case on more than one occasion this season, when we know the football we are capable of it's frustrating to see us play so badly.

This is the next step to us actually becoming a regular top 4 contender, consistency. we don't have any.

I wouldn't say we're inconsistent. We've only lost 3 games, that's pretty consistent. If our form was like WLWLDLWLWW then fair enough, but even the title contenders aren't 100% consistent.

 

[Abraders]

Jelavic hat trick today boys. 4-1 to the blues.

 

[BoysInBlue]

What did the Leeds game show? The only massive changes to our team that night was playing Junior at CM, Oveido and Gueye started but they can hardly be classed as kids

Precisely, he made changes that disrupted the side & had us on the back foot.

I really fear for us tonight, especially with Mucha in goal.

Not happy at all.

 

[ParkEndParody]

Precisely, he made changes that disrupted the side & had us on the back foot.

I really fear for us tonight, especially with Mucha in goal.

Not happy at all.

Woahh, Steady on! How do you know Mucha is playing?

 

[composter]

Trouble is, the fringe players realise that even a man of the match display won't even get em a seat on the bench for a prem game, so they're not really arsed. However a shoite performance means you're dead to Moyes, no pressure then.

 

[CheltBlue]

I don't think anyone should be very worried, Cheltenham only scraped through themselves against conference opposition in Hereford, they have the same problem as any league 2 team, as individuals theyre too inconsistent so unless they all play a blinder and Everton play a stinker we shouldn't be troubled at all, even with a mix of experience and reserves.

 

[Beagers]

I don't think anyone should be very worried, Cheltenham only scraped through themselves against conference opposition in Hereford, they have the same problem as any league 2 team, as individuals theyre too inconsistent so unless they all play a blinder and Everton play a stinker we shouldn't be troubled at all, even with a mix of experience and reserves.

This is Everton though mate!!!!

 

[Liamliverpool86]

what i'd like the team to be tonight ..

Mucha
coleman (if fit ) duffy jags garbutt
barkley osman junior ovideo
fellani
victor

 

[toffeejack]

anyone else a bit jittery after all the giant killing this weekend? We need a professional approach to this game because if we treat is as a gimme then we could end up with egg on our chin.

i didn't see any giant killings. cardiff and wolves are nowhere near good enough to be called giants - they're not even in the prem ffs.

We drew against Arsenal and lost to Chelsea. While we beat Villa, Sunderland, Newcastle and Wigan.

The difference is expectation.

exactly, our biggest win this season has come against the worst team we've faced, orient. people worrying saying we're going to lose because we lost to leeds need a bit of perspective. Leeds have a lot of good players and there is a massive difference between their standard and cheltenham's standard. They're also a massive club with a big backing. obviously we show cheltenham respect, but it should be a fairly comfortable victory