Champions League should be our goal...

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You know exactly what he means. Your saying you've got facts, you haven't. End of. Stop acting like 'kin know it all who's using facts to have us off. It's not happening for you, honestly.
 
You know exactly what he means. Your saying you've got facts, you haven't. End of. Stop acting like 'kin know it all who's using facts to have us off. It's not happening for you, honestly.

No I don't. It makes no sense to me.

but leave it, your not going to ruin my season. I promised myself when I came back here I wouldn't let people wind me up, and I won't.

We may finish 5th but if we do I'm not going to say anything, but if we don't finish 4th people like you will be pleased so that you can tell me you was right and I was wrong.

I am saying that it is possible that we can finish 4th, it's not an impossible task. It's difficult, but it's not impossible.

So when the [Poor language removed] are talking about winning the league and european trophies, I am going to be talking about going for 4th spot. I'm going to be positive, because if your going to be negative it's not healthy for you or those around you.
 
But the thing is it's not just that we reached fourth place five years ago.

It's that we were in prime position to do it again two years ago before throwing it away.

Its that we were nine points off it last year despite an awful start.

I understand if you think we won't get fourth, I don't think we will either.

But the idea that its not a possibiltiy, that we're deluded to think that there's a chance?

Bollocks to that. The gap isn't that big. Whatever the bloody media say.
 
But the thing is it's not just that we reached fourth place five years ago.

It's that we were in prime position to do it again two years ago before throwing it away.

Its that we were nine points off it last year despite an awful start.

I understand if you think we won't get fourth, I don't think we will either.

But the idea that its not a possibiltiy, that we're deluded to think that there's a chance?

Bollocks to that. The gap isn't that big. Whatever the bloody media say.

I havent said there isnt a chance, I just said I dont think we can do it with the current squad. Moyes agrees with me to be honest, take it up with him.
 
Its plain to see what I wrote. Thems the facts, I told you so.

No it's not.

I stated a fact, the fact being we finished 4th. Doesn't matter if it was last year or 4 years ago, we still did it against all the odds.

Does that not make sense? Am I saying it wrong? Anybody else want to help me out here?
 
Azzbot, we're not saying we WILL be 4th this season - only that it is a possible goal - or why support you're team?

I know you should be realistic (and god knows Evertonians are realists- and usually miserable), so that you're not disapponited every season (look at newcastle)

- but you need to have some belief that you're team will achieve something brilliant - A cup, or a CL place, for example - I just believe that it is more likely to happen than you -

Its the start of the season tommorow (today?) so lets have some positivity out there!You can whinge if things go horribly wrong over the next four games

I'm putting bets on 2-0 and 1-0 tommorow anyway...
 
No it's not.

I stated a fact, the fact being we finished 4th. Doesn't matter if it was last year or 4 years ago, we still did it against all the odds.

Does that not make sense? Am I saying it wrong? Anybody else want to help me out here?

Ok, we did finish 4th, but you then claimed that we would finish 4th this season. So you clearly cant be right, cos this season hasnt finished.

But nevemind.
 
Azzbot, we're not saying we WILL be 4th this season - only that it is a possible goal - or why support you're team?

I know you should be realistic (and god knows Evertonians are realists- and usually miserable), so that you're not disapponited every season (look at newcastle)

- but you need to have some belief that you're team will achieve something brilliant - A cup, or a CL place, for example - I just believe that it is more likely to happen than you -

Its the start of the season tommorow (today?) so lets have some positivity out there!You can whinge if things go horribly wrong over the next four games

I'm putting bets on 2-0 and 1-0 tommorow anyway...

The thing is mate, I wont be the one winging if it goes balls up. It will be your optimism crew wondering why they aren't strolling the league (y)
 
The thing is mate, I wont be the one winging if it goes balls up. It will be your optimism crew wondering why they aren't strolling the league (y)

No, you will be smiling because you proved all the optimistic fans out there wrong. Well done.

Ignore.
 
Of course it is. I just dont think we will do it unless we sign some players. You do, thats fine, lets hope your right, nothing would please me more.

Well can you not see where I am coming from? All I am saying is that it is possible, and we have proven that. Regardless if it happened 4 years ago or not.

We did it through great team spirit, and as far as I am aware we still have that and we have better players. Plus Arsenal are weaker than last year and I'm not convinced the rest are as likely to get 4th as we are. Despite what SSN want.
 
The saddest thing for me though is that our young fans are negative before they have ever suffered [Poor language removed].

Cal and this Azz lad. Both are young and weren't even born the last time we were boss, and this is the best we've been since them times. They don't know what being [Poor language removed] is all about. The 90's were awful.
 
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