Cahill on saturday

[toffeestillidie]

It was an awful shout. He needs telling.

right how's this for a lineup:

howard
neville.....mikelgoat's selfrighteousness...yobo...baines
rodwell
osman...............pienaar
cahill fellaini
saha​

better?​

 

[Goat]

What an Ak47 you are.

 

[toffeestillidie]

What an Ak47 you are.

all i'm trying to say is you could give reasons for your opinion or maybe suggest a better idea instead of just insulting me.

like when someone proposed fellaini at centre back, people brought up his tendency to committ fouls as a drawback. why not bring up some reasons that i obviously overlooked because i'm "bloody stupid"

 

[Goat]

Im sorry, your right, im wrong. Carry on, great idea mate.

 

[toffeestillidie]

Im sorry, your right, im wrong. Carry on, great idea mate.

i didn't say that either, i'm just saying an actual discussion of the players attributes and merits would be more productive than just insulting eachother wouldn't it?

did you come onto this forum to assert your viewpoint or to discuss things about the team?

 

[Goat]

i didn't say that either, i'm just saying an actual discussion of the players attributes and merits would be more productive than just insulting eachother wouldn't it?

did you come onto this forum to assert your viewpoint or to discuss things about the team?

Surely both?

 

[toffeestillidie]

Surely both?

fair enough so lets discuss. what exactly about cahill would make him a poor centre defender? do you disagree that he's a good tackler? do you disagree that he wins headers? are you concerned about his positioning? or are you just content sitting their with a smug smile of self-satisification without substantiating any of your claims?

 

[faddy the blue]

1st half:

.............................Howard.............................

neville...........Lescott............Yobo....................Baines


............................Fellaini.......................................


...............Osman...............................................Pienaar.......

.................................Cahill.................................................

..........................................Saha..................................




osman never runs down the flank so he's okay where he his. Cahill cam now easily run the channels and link up with saha with pienaar supporting him aswell....baines and neville have open field to boom forward and neville can knock his useless(mostly0 long balls too from deep.
Fellaini should play where he is supposed too,its about time he gets back where he belongs,he's young but he should learn to improve his game as a tough tackler and battler...chesting the ball and lose passes was all he did against arsenal

In the second i'd like to see Vaughan for osman, Baxter too atimes would be good and ofcourse Rodwell can replace Saha in the end

 

[Goat]

fair enough so lets discuss. what exactly about cahill would make him a poor centre defender? do you disagree that he's a good tackler? do you disagree that he wins headers? are you concerned about his positioning? or are you just content sitting their with a smug smile of self-satisification without substantiating any of your claims?

This for sure. But I will gladly engage in this discussion with you.

Cahill is good in the air, but he only scores so many headers because he is a ninja.

He cant tackle, he gives away far too many fouls and he would be a nightmare at CB for this reason.

He doesnt have the postional sense to play at CB and whilst he would give 100%, he doesnt have the required skill set in order to play at CB within the English Premier League.

 

[chicoazul]

Id prefer:

______________Cahill_______________

Neville_____Yobo_____Lescott____Baines

Not Osman___Rodwell___Someone___Pienaar

______Saha___________Whoever______

 

[toffeestillidie]

This for sure. But I will gladly engage in this discussion with you.

Cahill is good in the air, but he only scores so many headers because he is a ninja.

He cant tackle, he gives away far too many fouls and he would be a nightmare at CB for this reason.

He doesnt have the postional sense to play at CB and whilst he would give 100%, he doesnt have the required skill set in order to play at CB within the English Premier League.

i've seen him make good clearances when he drops back to defend, a couple against the mls all-stars spring to mind. i agree his heading prowess is somewhat based on his ability to find space, but doesn't that show he has good positional sense? think about it, if he has that uncanny ability to find gaps when he's on offense, wouldn't have the same ability to find the gaps he needs to close down on defense?

and for how many fouls he committs, he draws tons of them as well. he's quick and i think if he played centre back, he would really get under offensive players skin and force them to make mistakes.

you really think he can't tackle? have you seen him play for australia. once they're up they typically play more defensively as a team, so i've seen him defend a good amount, and he's proven to be a very clinical defender. really the main problem i can see with him playing centre back is excessively tall strikers, but i think based on superior positioning he can still win those headers.

 

[toffeestillidie]

i'm glad you decided to engage in discussion, it only took about 5 posts to get you to do it.

 

[Nebbiolo]

Id prefer:

______________Cahill_______________

Neville_____Yobo_____Lescott____Baines

Not Osman___Rodwell___Someone___Pienaar

______Saha___________Whoever______

Cahill would wasted there, lad.

______________Jags (why not?)_____________

Barton_______Jukebox__________Saha___________Osman

Arteta_______Degn________________Goat_________Saha

_______________Cahill____Cahill's brother_________

______________________Fellaini_________________________

___________________yakubu___________Saha____________

________________________Dunne__________________________

Subs

Saha
Pienaar
Rodwell
Moyes
Howard
Baines
Saha

 

[chicoazul]

Loving Dunne up front.

 

[Goat]

I dont think ive got the engine to play CM mate, can I play in the hole?