Burnley Case

[Roader]

The Premier League are clearly coming for Everton again by using Burnley. The club and supporters need to fight back at every opportunity against their corrupt actions.

 

[RD2910]

The Premier League are clearly coming for Everton again by using Burnley. The club and supporters need to fight back at every opportunity against their corrupt actions.

I think it's actually fairly unlikely that they wanted anything like this. They've completely lost control of it.

 

[Daytripper]

The Premier League are clearly coming for Everton again by using Burnley. The club and supporters need to fight back at every opportunity against their corrupt actions.

For what purpose? I keep reading how they supposedly hate us but not as to why?

 

[DuncansPigeons]

The more that’s come out of this the more it stinks to high heaven. Make no bones about is this is/was the PL trying to nail us in view of the potential independent regulator and because of our stance on the Sly 6. Let’s not forget the red cartel picked Masters as their own puppet.

The original panel was designed to properly “do” us. No doubt about it. Masters asking for a 16 point deduct, the panel “throwing out” his methodology and then using it. We should have foreseen a war in Russia, ignoring we couldn’t sell Gylfi. All very reasonable counter arguments. But not when the panel chosen by the PL are influenced by the PL

Let’s not forget, this original panel was highly criticised by subsequent panels and embarrassed by the appeal process. They found us guilty of something we weren’t charged with FFS and applied a points deduction to it. Let that sink in. We were found guilty of something that wasn’t on the “rap sheet”

They also contradicted the PL law book in their findings. A core principal in the PL is you can’t sue each other or apply for compensation. Yet they created a new rule for Burnley. The fact they’re allowed to hear this is utterly scandalous

Even in this one, it’s littered with errors as everyone has pointed out including the “expert witness” that just so happened to work for Burnley

However the one that says this isn’t a fair process is denying us the very reasonable request to put the £40 million in Escrow pending appeal. A reasonable request based on the fact Burnley are worth £62 million but owe £100 million meaning they’re at risk as a going concern and we worry if successful we won’t get our money back. A straight No. It’s as bent as it looks.

 

[Iana]

Said before, I find the whole idea of statistical modelling to "prove" an outcome for compensation, absurd.

Your model is already flawed because its bias.

You may as well have brought in Paul the Octopus to tell you the results.

Don’t give them ideas…

 

[BiggyRat]

Are we a signatory to some agreement that we keep disputes within the purview of the League? If we are, screw that! Take them to a real Court!

 

[Seathestars]

For what purpose? I keep reading how they supposedly hate us but not as to why?

They went after us originally to avoid the government introducing an independent regulator

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

The more that’s come out of this the more it stinks to high heaven. Make no bones about is this is/was the PL trying to nail us in view of the potential independent regulator and because of our stance on the Sly 6. Let’s not forget the red cartel picked Masters as their own puppet.

The original panel was designed to properly “do” us. No doubt about it. Masters asking for a 16 point deduct, the panel “throwing out” his methodology and then using it. We should have foreseen a war in Russia, ignoring we couldn’t sell Gylfi. All very reasonable counter arguments. But not when the panel chosen by the PL are influenced by the PL

Let’s not forget, this original panel was highly criticised by subsequent panels and embarrassed by the appeal process. They found us guilty of something we weren’t charged with FFS and applied a points deduction to it. Let that sink in. We were found guilty of something that wasn’t on the “rap sheet”

They also contradicted the PL law book in their findings. A core principal in the PL is you can’t sue each other or apply for compensation. Yet they created a new rule for Burnley. The fact they’re allowed to hear this is utterly scandalous

Even in this one, it’s littered with errors as everyone has pointed out including the “expert witness” that just so happened to work for Burnley

However the one that says this isn’t a fair process is denying us the very reasonable request to put the £40 million in Escrow pending appeal. A reasonable request based on the fact Burnley are worth £62 million but owe £100 million meaning they’re at risk as a going concern and we worry if successful we won’t get our money back. A straight No. It’s as bent as it looks.

The more you read about the case, the hearing and the judgement itself the more it sounds like something out of North Korea.

The former CEO of Burnley being classed as some kind of expert and the money being paid straight to them instead of being held in an escrow account pending the appeal are just two of the astounding revelations.

How any self respecting QC can be happy with their name associated to this kangaroo court is laughable.

 

[Tipp blue]

For what purpose? I keep reading how they supposedly hate us but not as to why?

They don't hate us they just took bribes from Liverpool owners to make us into a meme club.

 

[allen]

I could stomach this if other clubs (Chelsea, City, Forest etc.) had been given proportional punishments.

I think we should consider bringing a case against the Premier League for unfair treatment.

I understand that there is a route the club could pursue - including arbitration as a first step, then challenging any outcome of that arbitration in court.

We need to - at least - cause them to think twice about consistently using us as an example for whatever punishment they want to demonstrate they are willing to use.

 

[DuncansPigeons]

The more you read about the case, the hearing and the judgement itself the more it sounds like something out of North Korea.

The former CEO of Burnley being classed as some kind of expert and the money being paid straight to them instead of being held in an escrow account pending the appeal are just two of the astounding revelations.

How any self respecting QC can be happy with their name associated to this kangaroo court is laughable.

Spot on, I said it after the first one. It’s a kangaroo court and the 1st IC was massively criticised in their approach and dealings with everton

To have them involved again and basically dismiss everything we’ve put forward is iffy beyond belief

The escrow point alone is not just reasonable, it’s justified when there is the potential to appeal

 

[tonyhorne]

 

[kenada_blue]

Don’t give them ideas…

It should've been thrown out if that was the main bulk of evidence.

Use models and statistical analysis to predict asteroids hitting the earth....

Not Everton vs Norwich on a 2pm kick off on a Sunday

 

[Bedfordblue]

For what purpose? I keep reading how they supposedly hate us but not as to why?

Personally at the time of the origional case, i was (and remain) convinced there was some political pressure as we were ostensibly owned by Usmanov who was sanctioned at the time. I’ve no doubt personally that Moshiri’s ‘ownership’ was a bit of an embarrassment to the establishment.
Add to that the desire to demonstrate the EPL could keep their own house in order under the threat of a gov appointed regulator and we were an easy target imo.

That said, the current shambles i think, is more unintended consequences of the ham fisted attempt to make a convenient example of us.

 

[Iana]

It should've been thrown out if that was the main bulk of evidence.

Use models and statistical analysis to predict asteroids hitting the earth....

Not Everton vs Norwich on a 2pm kick off on a Sunday

Imagine if they had factored in Monday night kick-offs…Lordy Lordy!