Current Affairs Bloody Sunday Verdict

[Moomin]

Its not really a war when one side is comprised of murderous terrorists who killed more fellow irishmen than the british army

Suprise suprise, want to defend any other killers while you are at it??

 

[Carl O'Ancelotti]

Its not really a war when one side is comprised of murderous terrorists who killed more fellow irishmen than the british army

So was the other side, whose murders in many cases were carried out in collusion with State forces.

There's no hierarchy of victims here; all sides suffered and all sides have victims who need justice. How the legacy issue is to be dealt with is one of the outstanding items which have yet to be agreed by the politicians.

 

[SteveSC]

Its not really a war when one side is comprised of murderous terrorists who killed more fellow irishmen than the british army

Murder wasn't exclusive to one side.

Go do your homework.

First off the IRA were scum and ill never defend them.

The thing is though the UVF were no angels. They killed 33 and injured 300 in Dublin and Monaghan when they set those bombs off.

Ridiculous when a thread is started to talk about justice for innocents that we get people coming on throwing out lies, generalizations and pointing fingers.

"The Troubles" had evil and murderers from both sides of the line.

 

[Carl O'Ancelotti]

Murder wasn't exclusive to one side.

Go do your homework.

First off the IRA were scum and ill never defend them.

The thing is though the UVF were no angels. They killed 33 and injured 300 in Dublin and Monaghan when they set those bombs off.

Ridiculous when a thread is started to talk about justice for innocents that we get people coming on throwing out lies, generalizations and pointing fingers.

"The Troubles" had evil and murderers from both sides of the line.

Still the cover up continues over MI5/UVF collusion in the Dublin & Monaghan bombings. The families of these victims desperately seek justice as well and yet are denied it.

 

[Redstarrob]

Suprise suprise, want to defend any other killers while you are at it??

Seriously, are you a complete idiot as well as a knobhead, why dont you read what i said about bloody sunday and ballymurphy you clown

 

[Redstarrob]

Murder wasn't exclusive to one side.

Go do your homework.

First off the IRA were scum and ill never defend them.

The thing is though the UVF were no angels. They killed 33 and injured 300 in Dublin and Monaghan when they set those bombs off.

Ridiculous when a thread is started to talk about justice for innocents that we get people coming on throwing out lies, generalizations and pointing fingers.

"The Troubles" had evil and murderers from both sides of the line.

I think i know more about what happened in northern ireland than you, and what lies have i told

 

[BillBrasky]

If you colonize and enslave the people of another nation, than you deserve everything that comes your way. That’s what history has taught us.

 

[SteveSC]

I think i know more about what happened in northern ireland than you, and what lies have i told

You don't even know me or where i am from so not sure how you can easily come to that conclusion but whatever suits pal.

Beside that it's not hard for anyone to learn and study what went on so don't be so disrespectful. It's easy for anyone to research events and talk to those on what went on and even immerse themselves in any culture.

Also I never said you lied. There have been a few of you that have used one of the three. You did the whole pointing finger thing. Blame one side.

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

If you colonize and enslave the people of another nation, than you deserve everything that comes your way. That’s what history has taught us.

History teaches nothing about who deserves what, don't portray your opinion as fact.

So who deserved what exactly?

 

[PhilM]

If you colonize and enslave the people of another nation, than you deserve everything that comes your way. That’s what history has taught us.

While earlier another certain poster was chastised (and rightly for so) for their insensitivity, I hope this inflammatory comment receives the same condemnation.

Still the cover up continues over MI5/UVF collusion in the Dublin & Monaghan bombings. The families of these victims desperately seek justice as well and yet are denied it.

There was collusion on both sides of the conflict where families continue to seek justice yet it is denied. Is it fair to solely mention one aspect?

In all sincerity, that is no way trying to be obtuse regarding the subject, suggest you're implying anything or lessen the suffering of one side - not at all.

However has you mentioned, the legacy issue is a complex one and in general I am concerned as where it should end and whether it will truly be balanced.

 

[Redstarrob]

You don't even know me or where i am from so not sure how you can easily come to that conclusion but whatever suits pal.

Beside that it's not hard for anyone to learn and study what went on so don't be so disrespectful. It's easy for anyone to research events and talk to those on what went on and even immerse themselves in any culture.

Also I never said you lied. There have been a few of you that have used one of the three. You did the whole pointing finger thing. Blame one side.

True, i'll apologise for that mate, i have suffered bereavement at the hands of republicans so i am a bit biased, but read my other post about bloody sunday and ballymurphy, loyalist gangs were no better than the ira, they were also murderous terrorists

 

[Jebus_lives]

Was it a war ?

Why was it not a war?

 

[Armaghtoffee]

Why was it not a war?

At the risk of annoying the mods, maybe start a thread if you want to discuss this or other troubles stuff? I’m just conscious of keeping the Derry 14 front and centre in this thread.

 

[Jebus_lives]

At the risk of annoying the mods, maybe start a thread if you want to discuss this or other troubles stuff? I’m just conscious of keeping the Derry 14 front and centre in this thread.

I posted it before I had seen the intervention. I'm not going to follow it up.

 

[Barnfred 55]

At the risk of annoying the mods, maybe start a thread if you want to discuss this or other troubles stuff? I’m just conscious of keeping the Derry 14 front and centre in this thread.

Well said mate. I made a post after Pete's apology yesterday that we should now use this thread as a memorial as originally intended, but all that's happened is others have taken up the political argument.

If people really want to talk about the wider political situation in NI then start another thread or use an existing one that may already exist somewhere in the archives. Pretty sure the mods will be OK with either.