Bill Kenwright

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No there are not. However, it is often a ridiculous point that is made by people who love Kenwright.

"At least he isnt some foreigner who loads the club with millions of pounds worth of debt" Yet as you say, it is a necessity, the winner is essentially the one who has the capacity to loan/borrow the most.

Its the ridiculous suggestion that kenwright is any different from these demonised foreign prospectives.

Kenwright refused a business proposition that would have enabled the kings dock, he did this because he wanted to keep control. At best this was because his ego likes being a premiership chairman, at worst it is because he was only intersted in schemes that would make him millions of pounds.

What is for sure, is he did not turn down Greggs offer for the good of Everton Football Club. He has lied constantly to our fans, FSF ETC.

Yet some people hold him up as if he was the type of chairman that puts the needs of a football club before his own.

He dosnt, he is just like the rest of them. Except no other chairman is moving their club out of their home city.

Kirkby is 9 miles away from Liverpool City Centre, this is the longest distance a football club is from a town/city centre in the premiership.

How is it the same, Super Bill doesnt have any sponds, while Abromovich, Learner, the Yanks and the Glazers have personal fortunes probably running into billions, but place massive amounts of debt on to the clubs books.

Its all very well you taking the high moral ground here on debt etc, not withsatanding the fact you will probabaly be looking for Bills head in the summer if he doesnt drop 20 million. Which brings me to my point no matter what Bill does he will get stick, as a section of our support is so worn with hatred its lost the ability to rationalise about anything got to do with the man.

What i dont understand about about all this stadium lark is fair enough you dont agree with it (many people like looking at transport plans). Why demonise the man, why vilifi his charicter and every decison. Even if the stadium is the wrong decison, is it not possible that its one out of ten wrong, which i dont personaly think it is. Why is everyting and every decison he makes automaticly have to be an attack on possibly the biggest saving influence in the clubs history.

Im convinced anyone who hates Bill has lost the abiity to analyse, reflect and rationalise in a logical way in anything or any issue got to do with Billl, they cant because their so blinded with hate over the stadium move. People have lost the ability to think without emotion about him.

Thats why nobody ever takes the neg heads opinions, threads or reasoning seriously.

In the end all you can do is laugh.
 
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Kenwright for a Knighthood.

Services to Everton football club, the entertainments indistry and loyal service to the crown. (also the Wilmslow, the Caris, the oak, and a few others)


Kenwright is legend, and only people that are scared and feel overwhelmed by his massive presence would ever say anything otherwise.


/Throws cat amongst the pigeons


Watch this space.
 
Kenwright for a Knighthood.

Services to Everton football club, the entertainments indistry and loyal service to the crown. (also the Wilmslow, the Caris, the oak, and a few others)


Kenwright is legend, and only people that are scared and feel overwhelmed by his massive presence would ever say anything otherwise.


/Throws cat amongst the pigeons


Watch this space.

Campaign for Sir Bill.(y)
 
Maybe that happens because the thread to specifically debate the subject is locked? Just a thought.

What is there that's left to discuss about Kirkby? the subject has been done to death and any time a thread is started on the subject it just descends into cheap point scoring.
 
What is there that's left to discuss about Kirkby? the subject has been done to death and any time a thread is started on the subject it just descends into cheap point scoring.

Sticky it and then it doesn't bother anyone who doesn't want to contribute to it or see it bobbing up and down the board. Believe it or not, there's an ongoing process here and news about the timing of the ultimate decision and possible outcome will be forthcoming.
 
Sticky it and then it doesn't bother anyone who doesn't want to contribute to it or see it bobbing up and down the board. Believe it or not, there's an ongoing process here and news about the timing of the ultimate decision and possible outcome will be forthcoming.


ffs, what hasnt already been said?

when the outcome of the enquiry is known, fair enough.



It brings out the worst in people!
 
ffs, what hasnt already been said?

when the outcome of the enquiry is known, fair enough.

It brings out the worst in people!

If it's in a sticky at the top you needn't enter it. Job done.

Putting a gag on the Kirkby thread is ridiculous. It's a position that's been taken as some sort of matter of honour:

"Kirkby issue? Kipper and Toffeeweb are that way --------> ".

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What is there that's left to discuss about Kirkby? the subject has been done to death and any time a thread is started on the subject it just descends into cheap point scoring.

Exactly.

Lets just wait and see what happens now, it's been discussed to death.
 
How is it the same, Super Bill doesnt have any sponds, while Abromovich, Learner, the Yanks and the Glazers have personal fortunes probably running into billions, but place massive amounts of debt on to the clubs books.

Its all very well you taking the high moral ground here on debt etc, not withsatanding the fact you will probabaly be looking for Bills head in the summer if he doesnt drop 20 million. Which brings me to my point no matter what Bill does he will get stick, as a section of our support is so worn with hatred its lost the ability to rationalise about anything got to do with the man.

What i dont understand about about all this stadium lark is fair enough you dont agree with it (many people like looking at transport plans). Why demonise the man, why vilifi his charicter and every decison. Even if the stadium is the wrong decison, is it not possible that its one out of ten wrong, which i dont personaly think it is. Why is everyting and every decison he makes automaticly have to be an attack on possibly the biggest saving influence in the clubs history.

Im convinced anyone who hates Bill has lost the abiity to analyse, reflect and rationalise in a logical way in anything or any issue got to do with Billl, they cant because their so blinded with hate over the stadium move. People have lost the ability to think without emotion about him.

Thats why nobody ever takes the neg heads opinions, threads or reasoning seriously.

In the end all you can do is laugh.

I am not taking the moral high ground on debt. I believe that debt is necessary, the winners are the ones who can loan the most.

The value of the clubs that you mention (Chelsea, Villa, Liverpool and Man united) outstrips their level of debt, none of the above are in dire straights, infact they are all in very healthy positions.

Bill is vilified because of the REASONS he is taking us to a substandard ground that is located closer to Lancashire than Lime Street. No other premiership ground is further away from a town/city centre than the Kirkby proposal.

People are acting like moving out of the city wont have an affect on our own and Liverpool's marketing, it will.

Kenwright is doing it for major profit, nothing else.

I really cannot understand how/why people stick up for a chairman who completely 100% fabricated a bull**** story (The Fortress Sports Fund) just to keep control of the club?

Are you still waiting for the FSF? The last I heard the cheque was due by Christmas.....2004.

The biggest saving influence on the clubs history? :lol::lol::lol::lol: How on earth have you determined such a description?

Another reason why Bill is vilified is because our debt has tripled since he came into power, yet where is the investment? Moyes has been operating on about 4 million pound per year?

One out of ten wrong??? :lol::lol::lol: His performance would improve if he actually got 1 out of 10 correct.

Thankfully, it looks like the Kirkby proposal is going to be binned off. So that will be 2 failed ground moves, yeah he's a great chairman.

My original and underlying point is that it is ridiculous to praise Bill by comparing him to a mythical foreign demon who dosnt love the club.

The reason for this is because the charges that are attributed to the demonised foreign prospective chairman have allready occured, or are currently occuring, under Bill Kenwrights stewardship.

What could an alternitive chairman do that bill hasnt already done?

Move us out of our City?... Bill is trying to do that.

Move us to a substandard ground just to make a Huge profit?... Bill is trying to do that.

Only intersted in ego or profit.. This is Bill to a tee!!! Bill could sell up at a price (100m) in which he would quadruple his profit, but this isnt enough, he wants to move us to a substandard ground first in order to get a profit 10 times the amount he originally paid.

Could you please tell me what a demon foreign chairman could possibly do to harm Everton?

Please bare in mind that loaning finance sensibly and spending it wisely is actually synonomous with the word investment.

If you borrow wisely (I doubt a chairman will be loaning his own business a loan with a high APR, it would make no sense whatsoever) and increase the value of your club then there is no problem.

I dont think anyone is retarded enough to deny that David Moyes is about 60 million away from taking us to the champions league.
 
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