Current Affairs Bethnal Green Three

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dead_soft said:
‘Let her rot then kick her family out as well.’ - no one has been found guilty. Just your own prejudices simmering up
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She joined ISIS - an gang that would subjugate you the first chance it got btw - she's guilty of that. I don't need a court to confirm that quite honestly. Her dad is a racist kuffar hating div who is happy to live off our dollar.

They're postjudices.
 
Steve0 said:
She joined ISIS - an gang that would subjugate you the first chance it got btw - she's guilty of that. I don't need a court to confirm that quite honestly. Her dad is a racist kuffar hating div who is happy to live off our dollar.

They're postjudices.
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Here’s a man who hates people who hate British values so much that he’ll use their Anti-British values to support his own and go against British laws to get revenge on them.
 
dead_soft said:
Here’s a man who hates people who hate British values so much that he’ll use their Anti-British values to support his own and go against British laws to get revenge on them.
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Which British values do I hate?

Do you think she should be face punishment upon return?

Does her racism not bother you? Does the racism of her family not bother you? If a white girl was 'groomed' by her family to hate p*** would you not hold her responsible?
 
dead_soft said:
‘Let her rot then kick her family out as well.’ - no one has been found guilty. Just your own prejudices simmering up
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taking aside the current actions of the Home Secretary I think it’s entitely possible she was groomed , she was after all 15 . I don’t know too much about details only media reporting but the metropolitan commissioner at the time said he considered that she’d been groomed . So I am prepared to accept it played a part . However that doesn’t give her a free pass forever , she’s currently 19 . If she was involved in county lines dealing or child abuse then at 15 she could well be considered a victim , I think at 19 her own personal responsibility would probably be an issue and she could be dealt with on that basis .

I think there is a lot going on in this issue including grandstanding politicians and a woman who as a child may have been a victim but is now an adult . It’s been said earlier I think like many I probably find it hard to totally look passed her more recent comments.
 
dead_soft said:
Apologies.

Her dad cannot be kicked out of the country because people find his views unpleasant.
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Same was true with Salman Abedi.

We'll not know for sure of course, but it's a reasonable assumption that her dad has gone some way to instil hatred in her. At flag burning rallies etc. To allege that assumption is without foundation - 'Just your own prejudices simmering up' is a bit OTT.
 
Steve0 said:
She joined ISIS - an gang that would subjugate you the first chance it got btw - she's guilty of that. I don't need a court to confirm that quite honestly. Her dad is a racist kuffar hating div who is happy to live off our dollar.

They're postjudices.
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Maybe the public should see some of the ISIS videos ?

Let's see if watching that pilot burn to death in the cage focuses a few minds on what these people are really like.
 
Steve0 said:
Which British values do I hate?

Do you think she should be face punishment upon return?

Does her racism not bother you? Does the racism of her family not bother you? If a white girl was 'groomed' by her family to hate p*** would you not hold her responsible?
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You want a citizen kicked out of the country for his views without trial.
I do believe she should stand trial - which is at odds with what you think.
Of course racism bothers me, but that isn’t the issue here.
I don’t believe grooming and brainwashing is a straightforward as blame the person it happened to. What is ‘p***’?
 
GrandOldTeam said:
Same was true with Salman Abedi.

We'll not know for sure of course, but it's a reasonable assumption that her dad has gone some way to instil hatred in her. At flag burning rallies etc. To allege that assumption is without foundation - 'Just your own prejudices simmering up' is a bit OTT.
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I’m not saying it’s not an assumption with foundation, I’m saying an assumption shouldn’t lead to being thrown out of the country (and to where?)
 
dead_soft said:
You want a citizen kicked out of the country for his views without trial.
I do believe she should stand trial - which is at odds with what you think.
Of course racism bothers me, but that isn’t the issue here.
I don’t believe grooming and brainwashing is a straightforward as blame the person it happened to. What is ‘p***’?
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Well it was more a figure of speech, not really thought about it. Thinking about it now it wouldn't bother me other than the precedent it could set. It's more than just saying we should raise income tax. His racist views are utterly inimical to our way of life. He is a kuffar hating supremacist who thinks we live like animals. Bit mad me but we can do without that sort.

I asked if she should be punished. Given that we're unlikely to have any evidence to convict her in a court of law. i.e do you think running off to support a known terrorist organisation and helping them commit atrocities deserves any sort of punishment? Do you honestly think we can't judge her until she's be tried in a court of law?

Anyway she should be happy, she gets to live with her islamic brethren, away from the heathen kuffar hoards of this island. It's a mystery why she wants to come back.
 
Steve0 said:
Well it was more a figure of speech, not really thought about it. Thinking about it now it wouldn't bother me other than the precedent it could set. It's more than just saying we should raise income tax. His racist views are utterly inimical to our way of life. He is a kuffar hating supremacist who thinks we live like animals. Bit mad me but we can do without that sort.

I asked if she should be punished. Given that we're unlikely to have any evidence to convict her in a court of law. i.e do you think running off to support a known terrorist organisation and helping them commit atrocities deserves any sort of punishment? Do you honestly think we can't judge her until she's be tried in a court of law?

Anyway she should be happy, she gets to live with her islamic brethren, away from the heathen kuffar hoards of this island. It's a mystery why she wants to come back.
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Our next prime minister could be a terrorist sympathiser so it's kinda in keeping with British values.











joking ffs, don't kill me @Number_25
 
Steve0 said:
Well it was more a figure of speech, not really thought about it. Thinking about it now it wouldn't bother me other than the precedent it could set. It's more than just saying we should raise income tax. His racist views are utterly inimical to our way of life. He is a kuffar hating supremacist who thinks we live like animals. Bit mad me but we can do without that sort.

I asked if she should be punished. Given that we're unlikely to have any evidence to convict her in a court of law. i.e do you think running off to support a known terrorist organisation and helping them commit atrocities deserves any sort of punishment? Do you honestly think we can't judge her until she's be tried in a court of law?

Anyway she should be happy, she gets to live with her islamic brethren, away from the heathen kuffar hoards of this island. It's a mystery why she wants to come back.
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Which other important parts of British society and freedoms are you prepared to give up in order to protect British society and freedoms?

Also, side point, I still don’t know what p*** is, it’s gonna bug me
 
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