Current Affairs Bethnal Green Three

[tommytowne]

If her and this child do make it back to the UK, we all know how it will play out.

She will get a top lawyer, and argue that separating her from her child, infinges her right to family life, under some UN convention.

It will drag on through the courts for years, and cost us (taxpayers) millions.

She will then be free to bring up her child, hating liberal Britain.

Interview with the girl reveals she deserves the sympathy of the UK public. Really?
The family lawyer says that blame for her being groomed lies with the education authorities, the police, and social services. Presumably the same Social Services that she has great faith in ensuring her child's wellbeing if she returns.

 

[LEONARD]

No blame for her parents, who apparently allowed her unsupervised internet access as a child, and thus allowed her to be groomed- brainwashed.

You can see that this cynical campaign has begun to get her back in the UK.

If she yearns to live in an Islamic fundamentalist republic, let her stay where she is.

 

[tommytowne]

No blame for her parents, who apparently allowed her unsupervised internet access as a child, and thus allowed her to be groomed- brainwashed.

You can see that this cynical campaign has begun to get her back in the UK.

If she yearns to live in an Islamic fundamentalist republic, let her stay where she is.

It's probably been well debated already but it's going to be interesting to see how she and her child actually make it back to these shores. I hope we're not going to endanger the lives of any UK officials to go and fetch her.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

If we let her back with open arms then this country is an absolute disgrace.

Keep them over there or bring them back and straight into a life sentence for treason.

Funny people citing her age as some excuse when it is largely accepted that the very same excuse given to the bulger killers is wrong when you consider venables recent antics...

 

[LEONARD]

She's on record as saying she has no sympathy for people who were beheaded, as they were 'enemies of Islam'.

She would support and condone any future atrocity here, so enough to say NO to any application to return.

 

[The binman chronicles]

The girl needs a new PR assistant or stop saying stuff if she wants to be let back in.

 

[paulh116]

It is really simple. She lived in the caliphate-4 years I think-hardly a misguided mistake

Whatever your politics ,she is a traitor and should never be allowed back into this country. Anyone that has ever associated with ISIS should never knowingly be allowed into Britain.

Read what ISiS did the Yazidis people in 2014-a true modern horror story

 

[Tubey]

Girl: "I fully support the beheading of infidels as Islam allows it, and I have no regrets over my decision to join ISIS."
Us: "Well, that's not on, I don't think we can allow you ba-"
Girl: "I'm pregnant as well. I'm female, I was young and men misled me. #MeToo."
Us: "Oh, well that's different. Here's your plane tickets and a lo llipop - don't do anything bad again, you hear?"



... what a world.

 

[TraffordBlue]

I often wonder what goes through the mind of those that defend the actions of people like her, as some have done in this thread.

I get the feeling they genuinely believe she deserves sympathy, is a victim and should be allowed back in to the country, yet if they lived in Bethnal Green then they may feel a little different. Or if one of their own family members had been beheaded by ISIS...

 

[Big Fat Sam]

I'd happily have her head chopped off. In the name of Allah, of course. Absolute scum human being, just like any other Islamic State sympathiser. No exceptions.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I'd happily have her head chopped off. In the name of Allah, of course. Absolute scum human being, just like any other Islamic State sympathiser. No exceptions.

This is a non-beheading forum so please lay off making such vulgar suggestions.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

I often wonder what goes through the mind of those that defend the actions of people like her, as some have done in this thread.

I get the feeling they genuinely believe she deserves sympathy, is a victim and should be allowed back in to the country, yet if they lived in Bethnal Green then they may feel a little different. Or if one of their own family members had been beheaded by ISIS...

It's not about excusing her its about Britishness, and following due process, international law and she will have accept every bit only if it's just protect her new born baby.

Although I'm not religious in any form, I do accept that culturally we are Christian country and forgiveness is very much part of being British, of course that comes with caveats, such as sentencing of any crime committed, rehabilitation and then remorse.

So I'm not easily going to trade in my values and what as I see as Britishness over the actions of a now 19 year old, because I don't want to be even remotely near her state of mind that took her to ISIS!?

 

[Eggs]

She's on record as saying she has no sympathy for people who were beheaded, as they were 'enemies of Islam'.

She would support and condone any future atrocity here, so enough to say NO to any application to return.

....lawyers are now involved, I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a change in tone when she’s next interviewed. Possibly doing a ‘U turn’ and saying she regrets leaving etc.

 

[Harryflashman]

We can talk about throwing her in jail forever , chopping her head off or like the Home Secretary has done banning her from returning but none of those things are going to happen . If she can afford it and organise the logistics she’ll return to the U.K. , like it or not she’s British citizen and has the right to return. Given the available legislation it looks like the worst case scenario for her would be a couple of years in prison and that seems only possible rather than probable.

Everything else is an exercise in unnecessary anger . Rather than pandering to public opinion The Home Secretary should be concentrating on legislation that can perhaps tackle the problem or at least broaden the ability of the police and courts to charge in these circumstances and the effectively sentence and also looking at how to prevent this kind of issue arising at source .once she returns I’ve no doubt we’ll see some attempt at de-radicalisation but given her apparent attitude I’m unconvinced how successful that will be . It’s amazing how one case has caught public interest and created debate whilst hundreds of actual jihadi’s seem to have returned to the U.K. without any type of fanfare .

 

[TraffordBlue]

It's not about excusing her its about Britishness, and following due process, international law and she will have accept every bit only if it's just protect her new born baby.

Although I'm not religious in any form, I do accept that culturally we are Christian country and forgiveness is very much part of being British, of course that comes with caveats, such as sentencing of any crime committed, rehabilitation and then remorse.

So I'm not easily going to trade in my values and what as I see as Britishness over the actions of a now 19 year old, because I don't want to be even remotely near her state of mind that took her to ISIS!?

If she can get back safe with her baby I hope the baby can be looked after and given a good life.

As for her though, it's not just any mistake she's made, she has gone and joined a Terrorist Organisation known for the most brutal of killings and who hates the nation she wants to now return to. There should definitely be consequences for her actions. A lengthy prison sentence seems appropriate to me.