2020/21 Bernard

twoblue · December 27, 2020

Barnfred 55 said:
And how much are you going to pay for that proper footballer? And once you've bought him what are you going to do with him? Who do you drop him for or how do you keep him happy if he takes Bernies place on the bench?

It more about rotating players. 45 mill would be a decent amount.
Man U showed us what opinions from the bench can do

cronullasharks · December 27, 2020

Barnfred 55 said:
Only a nominal one due to his high wages

He's one I'm not fussed about if we kept or sold either way. Plenty out the door before him

18Chris87 · December 28, 2020

Made me eat my words yesterday saying I'd rather see Gordon come in for him, cracking influence off the bench

Barnfred 55 · December 28, 2020

Stephenlloyd said:
Bernard won’t be here.
The idea is to have 4 quality attackers for your front 3 positions. And a very good back up for DCL, not just a back up, someone who will take his place if he has a dip in form. 6th choice is iwobi, 7th a youngster IE Gordon.

And the same in midfield

There we have the crux of the matter but you still don't see it.

Our problem is not that we have Bernie as 8th choice for the front 3 positions, but that we have Siggy Iwobi and Tosun as 4th 5th and 6th choices.

It was a big mistake to loan out Kean without bringing in a direct replacement and we also need a top speedy front man to cover both flanks

Barnfred 55 · December 28, 2020

cronullasharks said:
He's one I'm not fussed about if we kept or sold either way. Plenty out the door before him

Agreed. He's so far down the pecking order him going or staying will not determine our future

Barnfred 55 · December 28, 2020

twoblue said:
It more about rotating players. 45 mill would be a decent amount.
Man U showed us what opinions from the bench can do

I agree we need that type of player but I don't see that as a direct replacement for Bernie as he's just a bit part squad player

Rob17896 · December 28, 2020

davids said:
Not better than James,but it's looking as though he'll be available more often.

You cant be good if you are not on the pitch!

Stephenlloyd · December 28, 2020

Barnfred 55 said:
There we have the crux of the matter but you still don't see it.

Our problem is not that we have Bernie as 8th choice for the front 3 positions, but that we have Siggy Iwobi and Tosun as 4th 5th and 6th choices.

It was a big mistake to loan out Kean without bringing in a direct replacement and we also need a top speedy front man to cover both flanks

I don’t see it, but at the bottom of your post, you point out what I’ve been saying all night lol lol

The options we have are garbage. And they will be upgraded over the next few windows

Exeter_Gently · December 28, 2020

Starts today.

Neiler · December 28, 2020

Hes been contributing this weather, but pound for pound a position we should look to player trade.

Saint Domingo · December 28, 2020

Barnfred 55 said:
We need a strong 15/16 to compete. At the moment I'd say we have maybe 13/14 of them. Bernard , as I said, is not even in our match day squad when everyone is fit. He's cover for the match day squad and we NEED players like him, and Davies and Gordon for when we have bad injuries like now.

I repeat, the only reason he is coming off the bench now is because we have so many injuries to first choice players.

If our first choice line up is a front four of Richarlison James Iwobi behind DCL then Bernard is arguably first sub for both flank positions. If he was able to keep any sort of decent form he’d probably be Carlo’s first pick off the bench every time but he hasn’t which is why Gordon Sigurdsson Davies and even fullbacks have all come on in wide areas ahead of him.

In his best form and fitness I like him as he can handle the ball properly but he just can’t display that enough and anything less than that he’s just another player too slow for the premier league.

Lloydystark · December 28, 2020

Surprised me when he came especially in the awful conditions, I thought he’d get blown over by the wind or even worse drown in a small puddle but he seemed to get stuck in and look up for it, need that effort in all games wether it’s a 10 minute cameo or full 90

TheVelourFog · December 28, 2020

Barnfred 55 said:
And how much are you going to pay for that proper footballer? And once you've bought him what are you going to do with him? Who do you drop him for or how do you keep him happy if he takes Bernies place on the bench?

presumably we would get a fee for him

and he has such little effect on the team that we could replace him with anyone, or no-one

Sheedy's right knee. · December 28, 2020

Barnfred 55 said:
Agreed. He's so far down the pecking order him going or staying will not determine our future

Nobody batted an eyelid when we loaned Walcott because he looked a spent force and he was inhibiting Gordon’s chances of minutes. As soon as he starts playing well people were clamouring saying how big a mistake it was. We can’t have it both ways. Hindsight is pointless unless you can see into the future.