Current Affairs Assault on US Capitol and Related (non-Trump) Investigation

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An apparent 8-1 vote (with Kavanaugh effectively a concurrence and only Thomas dissenting) is a big deal. Trump's strategy is obviously to stall. That just got a lot harder.
 
When is this ahole going to go to jail for the insurrection? It is so upsetting that he has gotten away with so much corruption throughout his life, but planning to overthrow a legitimate election should be the nail in the coffin, although I'm afraid he is also going to get away with it ?

 
When is this ahole going to go to jail for the insurrection? It is so upsetting that he has gotten away with so much corruption throughout his life, but planning to overthrow a legitimate election should be the nail in the coffin, although I'm afraid he is also going to get away with it ?


This is complicated, politically.

If Trump gets sent up the river for the rest of his life, it doesn't really matter what the grounds are. For a variety of reasons, Biden would strongly prefer for Trump to be jailed by the state of New York for tax fraud. Failing that, the next best alternative would be to jail him for fraudulently misrepresenting the value of his businesses (on the discrepancies between his representations to creditors and the IRS/state agencies regarding asset values).

Action by the state of New York leaves Biden's hands clean, and Trump's prosecution as non-partisan as possible. Jailing Trump for fraudulent dealings with the IRS raises the specter of future opposition trying to weaponize the IRS in reply, but it's a lot more politically palatable than jailing him for January 6th. The two of us can agree that Trump incited an insurrection. To Trump's followers, it looks like a politically motivated prosecution, which will in turn make them supportive of pure political prosecutions once the Republicans reclaim the presidency and DOJ.

The other problem with prosecuting for January 6th is proving that Trump was the ringleader, which gets tough due to the degree to which he tends to insulate himself from the criminal activities he orders. Nothing ironclad enough to likely get past a jury has hit the press yet. Garland is the guy that ran the OK City, Unabomber and Atlanta bombing cases for DOJ, and earned a lot of praise for how he ran those cases. He's not going to move without enough to have extremely high confidence of winning at trial, because the absolutely cataclysmic outcome is for the government to try Trump over January 6 and lose.
 
This is complicated, politically.

If Trump gets sent up the river for the rest of his life, it doesn't really matter what the grounds are. For a variety of reasons, Biden would strongly prefer for Trump to be jailed by the state of New York for tax fraud. Failing that, the next best alternative would be to jail him for fraudulently misrepresenting the value of his businesses (on the discrepancies between his representations to creditors and the IRS/state agencies regarding asset values).

Action by the state of New York leaves Biden's hands clean, and Trump's prosecution as non-partisan as possible. Jailing Trump for fraudulent dealings with the IRS raises the specter of future opposition trying to weaponize the IRS in reply, but it's a lot more politically palatable than jailing him for January 6th. The two of us can agree that Trump incited an insurrection. To Trump's followers, it looks like a politically motivated prosecution, which will in turn make them supportive of pure political prosecutions once the Republicans reclaim the presidency and DOJ.

The other problem with prosecuting for January 6th is proving that Trump was the ringleader, which gets tough due to the degree to which he tends to insulate himself from the criminal activities he orders. Nothing ironclad enough to likely get past a jury has hit the press yet. Garland is the guy that ran the OK City, Unabomber and Atlanta bombing cases for DOJ, and earned a lot of praise for how he ran those cases. He's not going to move without enough to have extremely high confidence of winning at trial, because the absolutely cataclysmic outcome is for the government to try Trump over January 6 and lose.
Maybe this inquiry is one of the evidences that Garland is putting together to win something against Trump. We all know he was the ringleader and the evidence is there if the Justice Dpt wants to pursue it.

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Maybe this inquiry is one of the evidences that Garland is putting together to win something against Trump. We all know he was the ringleader and the evidence is there if the Justice Dpt wants to pursue it.

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*nods* This is the sort of person Garland needs to flip in order to both make a case and win in the court of public opinion.
 
Thick is being charitable.


You can lose a good few hours watching Jordan Klepper do this and he is brilliant at it. No idea which one of them started it first but Klepper has Comedy Central behind him so guess he has more funding to do it. He is very good though so would encourage anyone to watch his stuff if they haven’t seen it already.
 
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