Martinezs brand of football only worked when the team still had Moyes's defensive qualities drilled in to them. This is pretty obvious stuff.
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DanEFC92
Player Valuation: £90m
Even Martinez thinks it was our worst performance this season http://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/martinez-bemoans-evertons-worst-performance-season#:PvutGg_ZeHPKaQ
royalblue66
Player Valuation: £70m
What did he say ? It was a one off. Yes o k Roberto..
He highlighted the fact Barry was missing, surely that is an admission of his own failure. If he hasn't put in place a Plan B for when a player of Barry's age and disciplinary record is missing then he is not managing.
Dunc's elbow
Player Valuation: £15m
WUM????
.....really?
Mutzo Nutzo
Player Valuation: £60m
Kopite!
The Equaliser
Player Valuation: £50m
The Esk
Player Valuation: £70m
Probably doesn't help your argument when you call fellow blues "clueless" mate. Respect the difference of opinion and argue your case, not other posters.
billycopper
Player Valuation: £40m
We're the fourth highest scorers in the league.
We've conceded the same number of goals as Chelsea and only one more than Liverpool. Our problem has been letting in decisive goals.
To a certain extent you do make your own luck but we're talking small margins.
Of the team that started against Arsenal only Jagielka, Baines and Lennon have peaked. The rest will still get better.
We've scored 3 goals away at the 7th, 8th, 10th, 11th, 13th, 17th and 20th placed teams. That is a very impressive feat in itself.
And, if Howard, Coleman, Stones, Jagielka, Baines, McCarthy and Barry are our preferred defensive players we haven't fielded that unit once yet this term because of injury and lack of form.
Norwegian Cow
Player Valuation: £35m
if u manage to read what I am saying, then u will see that is exactly what im saying. some deluded people were saying we wasnt playing nice football and just sideways. thats what im on about. I agree results should be much better.
if, if ,if. we are rubbish, we play Luke warm, negative football, we stand off teams too much especially at Goodison, several very good players have gone backwards under his management, Baines, Coleman,Stones, in particular, time for him to go.
eurosrees
Player Valuation: £20m
Not really having this sorry, it's a bit of a kopite stance to go with the "if my auntie had a ... She'd be my uncle" excuse. We have a good side and yet are rubbish about 85% of the time, the times we're good is because of players like Barkley or Lukaku turning it on, not the manager or his so called tactics.
billycopper
Player Valuation: £40m
How can we be that negative if we've scored only 3 goals less than Leicester?
Baines had admitted that he's still been suffering from discomfort in his ankle after a long injury.
Coleman was playing more like a winger (and actually played in midfield) when he first came through. He now has a genuine winger playing in front of him. When it's Deulofeu he hugs the touchline, so Coleman doesn't have the option of overlapping him. He's also had injury problems.
The transfer drama and fans getting on his back for over-playing unsettled Stones. Even without that, it's normal for a player of his age to go through peaks and troughs before finding consistency.
What about the players that have flourished? Lukaku has broken our Premier League goalscoring record, Barkley has more than quintupled his best ever goals return and has become an important player for England, Deulofeu is still about third in the assists charts, Lennon is in the form of his life, Barry has continued to confound with his longevity, Besic is starting to show how good he really could be...
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