Stav1985
I was Sapie88
What are your thoughts on the treatment of Mr A when he left?
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Revisionism from the usuals tying to deflect that *they* are the toxic problem Everton must rid it self of.
MartSlinger
Player Valuation: £40m
We were 2nd of Boxing Day, irrespective of what you think of the players, the fact we finished 10th in the end is on him as well.
sageyefc
Player Valuation: £90m
Or maybe on the same group of players that have abandoned several managers now
Is this another one of those “long time poster / forum supporters” cliquey posts just to reel people in for an argument / debate or a sincere one?
Genuinely just asking so know how to judge it.
Genuinely just asking so know how to judge it.
Daytripper
Player Valuation: £35m
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
I think you already know the answer….
I liked the way he had 8 defenders on the sheet to play relegated Sheffield Utd at home. Have him back? I'd rather have Drew Pritchard and Tee managing us.
Has he apologised to us yet over all the ruined weekends he thrust upon us?
Has he apologised to us yet over all the ruined weekends he thrust upon us?
Daytripper
Player Valuation: £35m
Absolute scream aren’t they
Some are, I enjoy the subtle ones in particular. The rest is tedious arse gas you can smell a mile away.
MartSlinger
Player Valuation: £40m
Same players won 11 games away from home but turned in dire, dire performances at Goodison mate. Its on him just as much as the players.
ZissouBlue
Player Valuation: £8m
It was lovely when Carlo was hired wasn't it? Unfortunately it went mostly downhill from there. He is completely past it as a manager just like Benitez and he got absolutely found out here. I hated the way he left but he unquestionably did badly here. It's not a debate. We would have 'parted ways' with him within a season. Whether we brought him down to our level or he's just a dinosaur is up for debate. But hiring another boring, uninspiring, past it manager is the real issue here. If you keep falling when trying to walk uphill, you don't just keep walking, you have to pause and come up with a new strategy. We are incapable of that.
sageyefc
Player Valuation: £90m
Times he could barely put out a team with our injury list, amazed he managed to claw in as many points he did with some of his options at times.
Kever10
Player Valuation: £15m
I was one of Ancelottis biggest supporters, especially in the face of people saying they wanted rid after 1.5 seasons of COVID interrupted nonsense. But let's get a few things right.
Whether it was by luck or by skill, he had us sitting pretty in the league and rightly takes praise for the points gained against the top 7 sides in the league.
But we also surrendered points against some of the very worst sides in the league when all we needed to do was not get beat in 5 very winnable games and we would be in Europe. Yes, some of that is on the players, that can't be in doubt. But these are players he himself picked. He continued to pick Sigurdsson, Gomes, Iwobi, when it was clear they were not working. He continued to not pick Josh King at all, even when options were limited. Whether he was the answer or not, we will never know, because he never even tried. He stumbled across a formation that worked, the back 4 wall, and dropped it never to return again in order to squeeze other people in to a side that wasn't performing. Try something new? Sure. But if it doesn't work, at least go back to something that did/does.
He had the opportunity to do something very special and he squandered it, spectacularly.
People saying about leaving to go to Madrid like it was his team. He was there for 2 years and was unceremoniously sacked after winning them the Champions League they craved without so much as an explanation. Had it been Milan he left for, I could totally understand, but it wasn't.
The financial position we find ourselves in is certainly not all his doing. It preceded both his and Brands tenure, but let's not pretend like he was here through altruism. He was paid £11m per year to be here, and by hook or by crook, we supported him in his insistance in bringing Allan and James, his 2 trusted lieutenants here. He was certainly backed as well as he would've hoped without putting us in an even more perilous position than we are currently in now.
As for the signings we've made since, we are obviously trying to navigate some tricky waters with a very restrictive rule set making it hard for us. And perhaps he was all too aware of what was coming. If so, that doesnt make it some noble exit, it makes it even worse. The "well, it's not my problem" attitude that is characterised by his famous shrug of the shoulders. In other words, he was happy to take the money and the plaudits, but didn't want to actually do the job he was being paid handsomely to do.
Say what you want about Benitez, he has taken a job he didn't need to take, a job for which he is the villain before a ball is kicked, and all while knowing everything that may have caused "Dear Mr Ancelotti" to run in the first place.
We are in a predicament at the moment, but nothing more. We have been in much worse positions before and have worked through it. I would say it is definitely better to have the money and not be able to spend it than to need it and not have it. Hopefully we can make the best of a bad situation, get behind the team, and try and get ourselves in a better position to go again.
Im not generally a very positive person, but the negativity around this club is genuinely toxic, and is doing us no good whatsoever.
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