Ambition now or sell on value?

[Allezfan]

Neville isn't awful, only retards think he is. They're probably the same people who think Coleman is boss.

Guilty as charged.

 

[Christiffa25]

I'd say Donovan is a very different player to Cahill.

I'd say Donovan is far more similar to Giggs.

This. Cahill offered very little other than what he was really good at. Once that went there wasn't much to fall back on! Donovan offers alot more than a bit of pace

 

[nigelcoyb]

We're not at the races haven't been since 4th came and went.

Kenwright admitted years ago he's not the man for the job yet remains amid tales that "no-ones buying football clubs".

He was clapped the other night at Hibbo's do confirming Evertonians on the whole don't know which way is up. It's only relegation that will wake the sloth like fan base but of course it will be too late then.

"selling club??? no ambition????" - dead right and has been since the 7th place trophy was invented.

 

[Number_25]

And Donovan's game is solely based on pace, is it? Behave.

Neville isn't awful, only retards think he is. They're probably the same people who think Coleman is boss.

The sheer amount of times that Heitinga/Jagielka has had to cover Nevilles arse as he's gone out of position is frightening. Our right hand is gash at the moment.

 

[Allezfan]

We're not at the races haven't been since 4th came and went.

That was our chance, right enough.

Istanbul and the fallout was the worst thing to happen to this club since that other european cup final the ****e played in.

 

[Neiler]

All things must pass lids, would be interesting to see the seasons we have lost say our "bigger players" what was the comparitive league position the following season, say Rooney, Lescott, Arteta....now that i think of it loosing three players over what 10 years aint that bad really, indact they all handed in request no?? FFS someone say something negative before this starts making sense.

 

[Allezfan]

All things muct pass lids, would be interesting to see the seasons we have lost say our "bigger players" what was the comparitive league position the following season, say Rooney, Lescott, Arteta....now that i thin of it loosing three players over what 10 years aint that bad really.

We never recovered from losing Lescott. Went from 6th, 5th, 5th to 8th, 7th, 7th.

 

[Neiler]

We never recovered from losing Lescott. Went from 6th, 5th, 5th to 8th, 7th, 7th.

Fair play mate, tbh i wasnt to happy with with the intake we got from that deal, i think we got spanked by injuries there as well which gives a bit of context.

 

[Allezfan]

Fair play mate, tbh i wasnt to happy with with the intake we got from that deal, i think we got spanked by injuries there as well which gives a bit of context.

Bily was a bad miss and we simply can't afford misses. It hurt us bad.

 

[BigDunc'sFod]

Bily was a bad miss and we simply can't afford misses. It hurt us bad.

Honestly, I feel he would have done better at a "ball playing club", where the players around him were on his wavelength. What little skill and ingenuity he had was wasted by having either lazy or clueless players making him look bad.

Oh, aside from the fact that he was an attack-only player that we couldn't afford the luxury of carrying, of course.

 

[Neiler]

Bily was a bad miss and we simply can't afford misses. It hurt us bad.

Is right mate, what was that 9 mill ouch. I think the timing and dynamic had a lot to do with that and i heard there was panic from the top Moyes went along with.

For all the Davey knocking hes made some big calls and took some risks this summer selling Cahill and Rodwell. Im surprised to be honest, that said i think he will go for one or two tried and tested in the PL.

Lets see what he does.....................................

 

[USAtoffee12]

There are really only two ways to approach the next year or two as long as we are under current ownership.

1.) We invest the money from Rodwell and any other sales (Anichebe perhaps) on quality players who may be a bit older thus lowering their value. While these players like Clint Dempsey, Donovan, Pienaar, etc will have little sell on value in the future, they are very valuable to a squad in the present and would all be first XI players here. Under this scenario, the club has to push for Champions League football, not Europa League but Champion's League. The money we would get from qualifying would replenish our coffers and perhaps make it easier to sell the club.

2.) The money from Rodwell and others goes on younger players that Davey takes "punts on". The likes of Cahill, Faddy (Mach One), Felli and others. This strategy has worked for us in the past very often, but it has also came back and bit us with bad buys. These purchases are far riskier than scenario but could pay dividends and sustain the club.

Personally, while both are risky, scenario one is better for the club at this point. We have good youth coming through and if we can supplement older purchases with some younger ones we should be good for the time being.

 

[Animal Farm]

There are really only two ways to approach the next year or two as long as we are under current ownership.

1.) We invest the money from Rodwell and any other sales (Anichebe perhaps) on quality players who may be a bit older thus lowering their value. While these players like Clint Dempsey, Donovan, Pienaar, etc will have little sell on value in the future, they are very valuable to a squad in the present and would all be first XI players here. Under this scenario, the club has to push for Champions League football, not Europa League but Champion's League. The money we would get from qualifying would replenish our coffers and perhaps make it easier to sell the club.

2.) The money from Rodwell and others goes on younger players that Davey takes "punts on". The likes of Cahill, Faddy (Mach One), Felli and others. This strategy has worked for us in the past very often, but it has also came back and bit us with bad buys. These purchases are far riskier than scenario but could pay dividends and sustain the club.

Personally, while both are risky, scenario one is better for the club at this point. We have good youth coming through and if we can supplement older purchases with some younger ones we should be good for the time being.

Fantastic post, I couldn't agree more.

 

[evertorial]

There are really only two ways to approach the next year or two as long as we are under current ownership.

1.) We invest the money from Rodwell and any other sales (Anichebe perhaps) on quality players who may be a bit older thus lowering their value. While these players like Clint Dempsey, Donovan, Pienaar, etc will have little sell on value in the future, they are very valuable to a squad in the present and would all be first XI players here. Under this scenario, the club has to push for Champions League football, not Europa League but Champion's League. The money we would get from qualifying would replenish our coffers and perhaps make it easier to sell the club.

2.) The money from Rodwell and others goes on younger players that Davey takes "punts on". The likes of Cahill, Faddy (Mach One), Felli and others. This strategy has worked for us in the past very often, but it has also came back and bit us with bad buys. These purchases are far riskier than scenario but could pay dividends and sustain the club.

Personally, while both are risky, scenario one is better for the club at this point. We have good youth coming through and if we can supplement older purchases with some younger ones we should be good for the time being.

I'm somone who would always go for scenario 2 in this case. If we go for option 1 and fall short of the champions league, then we could be left with 2, maybe 3 players over 30 with massive wages and no sell on value. Whereas if we sign the likes of Holtby or someone similar who is young and could develop, you still have the sell on value and player with good potential. As a club we cant afford to take risks to try to get in the champions league.

 

[Kurt.]

Brilliant post.

I have made my feelings clear on this issue. Buying average players, maintaining them for 3 or 4 years, selling them at a small profit and then replacing them with yet more average players will lead to nothing but treading water.

We have the third best defence in the league, a decent midfield and a top striker in Jelavic. The problem is that our right hand side is very often Championship standard, adding just one top quality right sided midfielder would make a MASSIVE difference IMO.

We also have a load of new revenue coming our way next year, which will more than make up for any loss in re-sale value, and as already stated, we have plenty of players with massive re-sale value already.

Nobody is advocating signing a player like Ginola who was totally ****ed and right at the end of his career, but the likes of Donovan could have another 4 years of TOP QUALITY football in them.

Honestly lad... are you due a payout if Donovan signs ??? his name appears in almost every post you make... my personal opiion is you are a tit who does not have a clue about football... smoke that bitch.


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