Current Affairs Aliens and possible disclosure

[d34noj]

There’s trillions of planets. Of course there’s life out there.

Professor Brian Cox did an interview where he said...

For every grain of sand on earth, there's 1 billion stars - and that's just in our observable universe, and the general consensus is that space is infinite therefore infinite universes.

It's unimaginable, blows my mind.

 

[larrygobfiend]

Professor Brian Cox did an interview where he said...

For every grain of sand on earth, there's 1 billion stars - and that's just in our observable universe, and the general consensus is that space is infinite therefore infinite universes.

It's unimaginable, blows my mind.

It makes me feel sick when I think about it

 

[Tommy Chong]

Professor Brian Cox did an interview where he said...

For every grain of sand on earth, there's 1 billion stars - and that's just in our observable universe, and the general consensus is that space is infinite therefore infinite universes.

It's unimaginable, blows my mind.

Yip, that’s if you consider the multiverse theory!

Imagine… There could exist a parallel universe where WE’RE the aliens!

 

[Thomasc]

Far too many sightings and the size of the universe means of course there is other life forms out there.

I watch Paranormal Caught On Camera there’s some great footage.

 

[Tommy Chong]

Far too many sightings and the size of the universe means of course there is other life forms out there.

I watch Paranormal Caught On Camera there’s some great footage.

Well, at the very least:

NASA scientist: Evidence of alien life on meteorite

Examination of rare class of meteors turns up fossil remains of bacterial life

www.cbsnews.com

They found alien bacteria on a meteorite. Technically, that constitutes alien life....

 

[Jokerdan]

I look at it this way -

Yip, that’s if you consider the multiverse theory!

Imagine… There could exist a parallel universe where WE’RE the aliens!

My take fwiw - there can be no edge to the Universe because then there would have to be something beyond that.

Where did the spark/process come from to create the Universe? What caused it (the spark) to exist in the first instance? The 'thought', for want of a better expression, behind it ie. the creative cause of that spark/process?

As a race of people on this planet and no matter how advanced we become I doubt we will ever understand the origins of the Universe or even why it exists in the first place. Something can't be created from nothing and for there to be 'nothing' there has to be a consciousness that such a principle of 'nothingness' exists.

But, yes, I believe that there are too many unexplained events both historically and contemporary for us not to be alone and that there may very well be portals to and from other dimensions which act as conduits to enable more extremely and intellectually advanced races to visit.

Mind boggling the more you think about it..but better than counting sheep to get to get to sleep!

 

[Tommy Chong]

I look at it this way -

My take fwiw - there can be no edge to the Universe because then there would have to be something beyond that.

Where did the spark/process come from to create the Universe? What caused it (the spark) to exist in the first instance? The 'thought', for want of a better expression, behind it ie. the creative cause of that spark/process?

As a race of people on this planet and no matter how advanced we become I doubt we will ever understand the origins of the Universe or even why it exists in the first place. Something can't be created from nothing and for there to be 'nothing' there has to be a consciousness that such a principle of 'nothingness' exists.

But, yes, I believe that there are too many unexplained events both historically and contemporary for us not to be alone and that there may very well be portals to and from other dimensions which act as conduits to enable more extremely and intellectually advanced races to visit.

Mind boggling the more you think about it..but better than counting sheep to get to get to sleep!

Agreed mate, the best we've got is the Big Bang Theory, which is that the universe started with a massive outward explosion from a singularity of infinite mass and infinite density, then the universe is constantly expanding... Even as we speak.

Who knows how it started. It is mind-boggling! Enough to drive you insane.

There are plenty of theories, I guess. My favourite being:

 

[Xizor]

Something can't be created from nothing

How could you know that? We've never observed this 'nothing' (lets give it a loose definition of any potential material outside the boundaries of the universe) and don't have the first clue what properties it might have. I think we'd have to understand what's outside the universe, or what was there "before" it (before is a function of time, and time may not exist outside the universe for there to have been a before), to be able to answer whether the conditions were in place for the big bang (or any alternate explanation) could have occured.

It probably is unknowable but the scientific method doesn't circle around what we know, it focuses on what we can observe. It's then down to the eggheads and boffins to offer up hypotheses for these observations, and then develop experiments to prove themselves wrong. Once enough people have failed to falsify a specific hypothesis then it starts to become accepted, unless a competing hypothesis fits the facts better.

So if our observations are that every point in the observable universe is moving away from each other, then we can speculate that the whole thing is expanding to cover ever greater areas, with the implication it was at one point infinitely small and does currently have an 'edge' that is the outer boundary of the expanding area.

Whole thing could be wrong of course, but we'd probably need to be 'out there' to get much more evidence than we currently have, which doesn't seem to be on the cards (damn you 80s scifi, I really believed we'd have a moonbase by now).

 

[Tommy Chong]

How could you know that? We've never observed this 'nothing' (lets give it a loose definition of any potential material outside the boundaries of the universe) and don't have the first clue what properties it might have. I think we'd have to understand what's outside the universe, or what was there "before" it (before is a function of time, and time may not exist outside the universe for there to have been a before), to be able to answer whether the conditions were in place for the big bang (or any alternate explanation) could have occured.

It probably is unknowable but the scientific method doesn't circle around what we know, it focuses on what we can observe. It's then down to the eggheads and boffins to offer up hypotheses for these observations, and then develop experiments to prove themselves wrong. Once enough people have failed to falsify a specific hypothesis then it starts to become accepted, unless a competing hypothesis fits the facts better.

So if our observations are that every point in the observable universe is moving away from each other, then we can speculate that the whole thing is expanding to cover ever greater areas, with the implication it was at one point infinitely small and does currently have an 'edge' that is the outer boundary of the expanding area.

Whole thing could be wrong of course, but we'd probably need to be 'out there' to get much more evidence than we currently have, which doesn't seem to be on the cards (damn you 80s scifi, I really believed we'd have a moonbase by now).

Exactly mate... 'Before' would have to exist outside the space-time continuum, meaning space and time could only exist after the Big Bang explosion.

And around and around we go... So many hypothesises.
One theory being that the universe was created on some sort of causality loop, meaning it created something during its existence that has the ability to transverse outside space-time continuum to cause the Big Bang explosion....

It's enough to drive you insane, mate...

 

[Jokerdan]

Exactly mate... 'Before' would have to exist outside the space-time continuum, meaning space and time could only exist after the Big Bang explosion.

And around and around we go... So many hypothesises.
One theory being that the universe was created on some sort of causality loop, meaning it created something during its existence that has the ability to transverse outside space-time continuum to cause the Big Bang explosion....

It's enough to drive you insane, mate...

But it's also enough to drive you to sleep.

Once again, though, I will stick to my views regarding 'nothingness' (if such a word even exists) because, by right, we would need to understand how even that concept came about in the first instance to create the conditions which were the catalyst for what is now the known and unknown Universe. Very heavy, I know, but.....zzzz

 

[Tommy Chong]

But it's also enough to drive you to sleep.

Once again, though, I will stick to my views regarding 'nothingness' (if such a word even exists) because, by right, we would need to understand how even that concept came about in the first instance to create the conditions which were the catalyst for what is now the known and unknown Universe. Very heavy, I know, but.....zzzz

Will we get all the answers when it’s all said and done?
Who knows?

Personally, I friggin’ hope so! I’ll be proper peeved if I don’t!

 

[Kurt.]

Will we get all the answers when it’s all said and done?
Who knows?

Personally, I friggin’ hope so! I’ll be proper peeved if I don’t!

Can’t wait for @davek to somehow blame it all on starmer

 

[Bedfordblue]

What would be the worst sort of Alien to be here?
A Predator type whopper who just goes round killing whatever the f it fancies and is far more technologically advanced than us ants, or
A mindless killing machine like the ones in Aliens or A Quiet Place, or
A micro organism that could land on a meteor, is infectious and kills its host after turning us into mindless blood thirsty fruit loops?

 

[Jokerdan]

What would be the worst sort of Alien to be here?
A Predator type whopper who just goes round killing whatever the f it fancies and is far more technologically advanced than us ants, or
A mindless killing machine like the ones in Aliens or A Quiet Place, or
A micro organism that could land on a meteor, is infectious and kills its host after turning us into mindless blood thirsty fruit loops?

We don't need these - we have sufficient numbers of them already in positions of power on the planet, unfortunately

 

[Tommy Chong]

What would be the worst sort of Alien to be here?
A Predator type whopper who just goes round killing whatever the f it fancies and is far more technologically advanced than us ants, or
A mindless killing machine like the ones in Aliens or A Quiet Place, or
A micro organism that could land on a meteor, is infectious and kills its host after turning us into mindless blood thirsty fruit loops?

The one that cracks off jokes with horrible punchlines, one after another...


If that happens, God help us all.