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A valid sign at one of the demo's

 

[bicycleheader]

If you believe that I started this thread as a trap, and that I am a Nostradamus like visionary, well, I am sorry to give you bad news. I started the thread due to genuine concerns about destabilisation in Africa and also the role of certain state actors in this.

This Islamist atrocity in Sudan has just happened so the shock should be a fresh concern for any who position themselves as ethically minded.

It is fair to say that some moral reasoning is much more directed at defending one’s prior, subjective views and bias. I am not suggesting that I am immune but what is clear is that fairness and reciprocity are fundamental building blocks of morality. This should clearly be based upon universal norms of humanitarian culture. So when I say a Sudanese women or child killed is equally as repulsive as a Palestinian or Ukrainian women or child, it is reasonable to expect a truly moral mind to understand this. A biased mind might struggle and if, for example, people are wanting to discuss solutions between two or more parties or issues then any bias would be an issue and barrier. If a person is espousing the virtues of morality, and actively decrying one atrocity, if they are truly moral they will do so equally for all. I think this is fair to say. If not, then maybe it is not a moral issue that they have issue with. Maybe it is not the murder of women and children, for example. That is what I am saying.

Firstly apologies as clearly you haven’t just opened the thread so my points are more from the recent post onwards which activated the thread again

So in short you believe some posters are not empathetic and only care about certain issues because of their biases. Who? Who are the non truly moral minds as you put it who don’t understand one child’s life is as important as another’s regardless of nationality.

“Do so equally for all” there’s a level there where it gets to expecting everybody to have a disclaimer in their posts. I personally assume majority of people posting in here do not have their moral compass that far off whack, even those who I do not like at all.

Maybe a couple like Zat yes I get the impression there’s an empathy and moral deficit there, but it seems to me you are calling out others where I likely wouldn’t agree and wouldnt see this as the way to raise the point with them

Disclaimer: I don’t know and never will know what a Davek is or what they may feel or if they have feelings

 

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Firstly apologies as clearly you haven’t just opened the thread so my points are more from the recent post onwards which activated the thread again

So in short you believe some posters are not empathetic and only care about certain issues because of their biases. Who? Who are the non truly moral minds as you put it who don’t understand one child’s life is as important as another’s regardless of nationality.

“Do so equally for all” there’s a level there where it gets to expecting everybody to have a disclaimer in their posts. I personally assume majority of people posting in here do not have their moral compass that far off whack, even those who I do not like at all.

Maybe a couple like Zat yes I get the impression there’s an empathy and moral deficit there, but it seems to me you are calling out others where I likely wouldn’t agree and wouldnt see this as the way to raise the point with them

Disclaimer: I don’t know and never will know what a Davek is or what they may feel or if they have feelings

You just need to look at the threads covering current active atrocities and you'll see a few active in all, and some that clearly aren't that inclined to care, as is the norm on a message board i.e. by posting about issues with balanced concern. The situation in Ukraine is at least as bad as Gaza with regards to atrocities/war crimes being inflicted upon civilians. The Sudan issue has also just taken a sharp turn back into chaos but for some Palestine is a dog whistle as we can see on here (CA), IMO.

Davek is a forum hand grenade who gets his kicks through causing upset and anger.

 

[Milkman]

You just need to look at the threads covering current active atrocities and you'll see a few active in all, and some that clearly aren't that inclined to care, as is the norm on a message board i.e. by posting about issues with balanced concern. The situation in Ukraine is at least as bad as Gaza with regards to atrocities/war crimes being inflicted upon civilians. The Sudan issue has also just taken a sharp turn back into chaos but for some Palestine is a dog whistle as we can see on here (CA), IMO.

Davek is a forum hand grenade who gets his kicks through causing upset and anger.

Names please

 

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Names please

Well you're a ringleader like

 

[Milkman]

Well you're a ringleader like

So are you going to call me an anti-Semite or what then?

 

[verreauxi]

Lots at stake here, and I'm quite worried for my friends in Madagascar. The current president Rajoelina is a corrupt POS who has used the country's sparse resources to line his pockets. That said, I don't see a civil war happening if the elections go poorly. I hope I'm right...

Madagascar’s 2023 presidential election is crucial for the island’s future, but it’s off to a rocky start

A peaceful power transition would be a sign of a maturing democracy.

theconversation.com

Police have been tear-gassing opposition candidates...

Madagascar presidential candidate injured after opposition rally teargassed

Former Madagascar president Marc Ravalomanana said he had sustained a leg injury on Saturday when police and soldiers fired teargas to disperse a gathering of his supporters and those of other candidates challenging the incumbent president.

www.reuters.com

 

[verreauxi]

This is a great source but the subscription prices are pretty steep. Hoping our library has a subscription...

Africa Intelligence: exclusive news on Africa

Africa Intelligence, leading professional Web site specialising in political and economic developments in Africa: investigations about government, business circles and influential figures.

www.africaintelligence.com

 

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So are you going to call me an anti-Semite or what then?

Is that your go to! How strange.

Some might want to reflect, some might not care, some will think it right and others wrong. It is what it is.

Innocents suffering is bad and to save derailing the thread I'll leave it there.

 

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Lots at stake here, and I'm quite worried for my friends in Madagascar. The current president Rajoelina is a corrupt POS who has used the country's sparse resources to line his pockets. That said, I don't see a civil war happening if the elections go poorly. I hope I'm right...

Madagascar’s 2023 presidential election is crucial for the island’s future, but it’s off to a rocky start

A peaceful power transition would be a sign of a maturing democracy.

theconversation.com

Police have been tear-gassing opposition candidates...

Madagascar presidential candidate injured after opposition rally teargassed

Former Madagascar president Marc Ravalomanana said he had sustained a leg injury on Saturday when police and soldiers fired teargas to disperse a gathering of his supporters and those of other candidates challenging the incumbent president.

www.reuters.com

Sadly for African countries they are cursed/blesseed with mineral resources. It was not a surprise to hear that Wagner have a mining partnership with the government. The poor people just trying to get on with there lives whilst these mobsters and political mobsters rob their futures, it is sickening.

 

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Russia's Wagner Group in Africa: More than mercenaries – DW – 06/24/2023

Russian President Vladimir Putin has called the recent actions of the Wagner Group and its leader Yevgeny Prigozhin a "betrayal" that will be punished.

www.dw.com

 

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[Mutzo Nutzo]

Russia in stealing African gold and rare earth minerals shocker.

Robbing off each other now.

 

[mightymoyes]

You just need to look at the threads covering current active atrocities and you'll see a few active in all, and some that clearly aren't that inclined to care, as is the norm on a message board i.e. by posting about issues with balanced concern. The situation in Ukraine is at least as bad as Gaza with regards to atrocities/war crimes being inflicted upon civilians. The Sudan issue has also just taken a sharp turn back into chaos but for some Palestine is a dog whistle as we can see on here (CA), IMO.

Davek is a forum hand grenade who gets his kicks through causing upset and anger.

I mean that's just not true by any measure. If you're going to try to disparage people at least have something to back it up.

 

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I mean that's just not true by any measure. If you're going to try to disparage people at least have something to back it up.

Was it between 3,500,000 to 7,000,000 Ukrainians killed by Russia 90 years ago - or was it higher?
Did Russian settlers push Ukrainians out of Eastern Ukraine? Perpetual conflict with a more powerful aggressor, continuous war crimes suffered at an aggressors hands. Nope, you clearly know your stuff and are not triggered at all.