Aaron Lennon ( On Loan January 2015 )

[Zatara]

Silva? And theres surely a few more being scouted.

Don't we all?! Let's be realistic. None of those names are achievable apart from maybe Deulofeu.

 

[streeky]

I'd keep him. Deulofeu was ace at dribbling half the length of the field then twatting it into the side netting. Both would be great.

Also great at running half the field getting tackled and taking 1 minute to get up while his team mates do his tracking back for him. Martinez did a piece about Deulofeu last year., he was very polite a pointed out his strong points but also pointed out his major weakness of losing the ball easily and giving up for a few minutes after. We won't sign him ,I'm happy with hard working solid wingers than kids with giant ego's.

 

[Aidey9]

Still not convinced with Lennon. He's got great work rate and pace to burn but he doesn't really offer a lot. Watching him in the game yesterday and straight away in the first few mins he got put up one on one against Taylor in the LB spot with space and not once did he attempt to take him on, beat him and put a ball in, instead he tried to curl a cross around the FB and hit him and got a corner.

The only winger I remember who didn't beat FB's but could whip balls around em and into the box was Beckham, and he's no Beckham.

He's got pace but won't front the FB up and take em on and always looks back or goes inside and it slows the momentum of play up. Yesterday, especially first half I felt, he was never really an out ball for Coleman down the line and sometimes he was nowhere to be seen.

I've seen articles through out the season with Martinez talking about how he and Graeme Jones like technical players and wingers that go and front up FB's and take them on and Lennon for me doesn't do this so it'll be interesting to see what they make of him come the end of the season?!

In my personal opinion I'd rather we went and struck a deal with Barca for Deulofeu. Spurs as we all know are tough to deal with when buying or selling and I think they'll want anything from 5 and a bit mill to £7m and for someone knocking on 28 who's not wanted at a club who in my eyes are currently on a par with us level wise and aspirations wise and isn't really that good, then I don't think its a worthwhile deal if I'm honest.

I'd rather we spent that little bit more on Deulofeu. Yes he hasn't got the same work rate as Lennon but this lad can do more damage in a part of the pitch where were crying out for some magic, and that's in the final third! Deulofeu as pace and can beat men for fun and yes, he can be greedy but he's still young and will learn to pick his moments of when to take players on and have shots or cross the ball etc. He's a talent and a work in progress and I'd rather us spend around £10m or whatever on him than the finished article that is Lennon.

 

[maccavennie]

Still not convinced with Lennon. He's got great work rate and pace to burn but he doesn't really offer a lot. Watching him in the game yesterday and straight away in the first few mins he got put up one on one against Taylor in the LB spot with space and not once did he attempt to take him on, beat him and put a ball in, instead he tried to curl a cross around the FB and hit him and got a corner.

The only winger I remember who didn't beat FB's but could whip balls around em and into the box was Beckham, and he's no Beckham.

He's got pace but won't front the FB up and take em on and always looks back or goes inside and it slows the momentum of play up. Yesterday, especially first half I felt, he was never really an out ball for Coleman down the line and sometimes he was nowhere to be seen.

I've seen articles through out the season with Martinez talking about how he and Graeme Jones like technical players and wingers that go and front up FB's and take them on and Lennon for me doesn't do this so it'll be interesting to see what they make of him come the end of the season?!

In my personal opinion I'd rather we went and struck a deal with Barca for Deulofeu. Spurs as we all know are tough to deal with when buying or selling and I think they'll want anything from 5 and a bit mill to £7m and for someone knocking on 28 who's not wanted at a club who in my eyes are currently on a par with us level wise and aspirations wise and isn't really that good, then I don't think its a worthwhile deal if I'm honest.

I'd rather we spent that little bit more on Deulofeu. Yes he hasn't got the same work rate as Lennon but this lad can do more damage in a part of the pitch where were crying out for some magic, and that's in the final third! Deulofeu as pace and can beat men for fun and yes, he can be greedy but he's still young and will learn to pick his moments of when to take players on and have shots or cross the ball etc. He's a talent and a work in progress and I'd rather us spend around £10m or whatever on him than the finished article that is Lennon.

I think 6m is a decent outlay for Lennon. But Deulofeu is the one I think we should be going in for 100%. If we got him in then I would be more than happy to have Lennon come on as well.

Lennon has been excellent though, he's put in the required effort I expect from an Everton player and has put a lot of others to shame with his workrate, fitness and effort.

 

[streeky]

Still not convinced with Lennon. He's got great work rate and pace to burn but he doesn't really offer a lot. Watching him in the game yesterday and straight away in the first few mins he got put up one on one against Taylor in the LB spot with space and not once did he attempt to take him on, beat him and put a ball in, instead he tried to curl a cross around the FB and hit him and got a corner.

The only winger I remember who didn't beat FB's but could whip balls around em and into the box was Beckham, and he's no Beckham.

He's got pace but won't front the FB up and take em on and always looks back or goes inside and it slows the momentum of play up. Yesterday, especially first half I felt, he was never really an out ball for Coleman down the line and sometimes he was nowhere to be seen.

I've seen articles through out the season with Martinez talking about how he and Graeme Jones like technical players and wingers that go and front up FB's and take them on and Lennon for me doesn't do this so it'll be interesting to see what they make of him come the end of the season?!

In my personal opinion I'd rather we went and struck a deal with Barca for Deulofeu. Spurs as we all know are tough to deal with when buying or selling and I think they'll want anything from 5 and a bit mill to £7m and for someone knocking on 28 who's not wanted at a club who in my eyes are currently on a par with us level wise and aspirations wise and isn't really that good, then I don't think its a worthwhile deal if I'm honest.

I'd rather we spent that little bit more on Deulofeu. Yes he hasn't got the same work rate as Lennon but this lad can do more damage in a part of the pitch where were crying out for some magic, and that's in the final third! Deulofeu as pace and can beat men for fun and yes, he can be greedy but he's still young and will learn to pick his moments of when to take players on and have shots or cross the ball etc. He's a talent and a work in progress and I'd rather us spend around £10m or whatever on him than the finished article that is Lennon.

Why would Lennon want to front up a full back, he has blistering pace and can just knock it and go. Deulofeu can't even make it onto the Sevlle bench now. Deulofeu is not the finished article it's true and this season he has not been an article of any description, 4 assists and 2 goals in a minor cup competition all season. I guess it shows the problems managers have buying players they all have good and bad points.

 

[Aidey9]

Also great at running half the field getting tackled and taking 1 minute to get up while his team mates do his tracking back for him. Martinez did a piece about Deulofeu last year., he was very polite a pointed out his strong points but also pointed out his major weakness of losing the ball easily and giving up for a few minutes after. We won't sign him ,I'm happy with hard working solid wingers than kids with giant ego's.

Having a team mainly of grafters doesn't really get you anywhere though does it?! We've had teams like that at stages in Moyesies reign at us and we've never amounted to anything great. We had one season where we made CL but for me that was a one off and will never be done by a team like that again!

Look at some of the Stoke teams over the years under Pulis, Blackburn teams before relegation (Hughes & Allardyce reigns), there teams were mainly made up of grafters and amounted to nothing, mid table mediocre and finally relegation.

Don't get me wrong, you do need those types of players in your squad and fitted out in sections of your team but you also need those xfactor players, the game changers/winners that make the difference and take you that next step.

All the best teams have a great mix, it's no coincidence that the teams that are full of one or the other are nothing clubs and don't really achieve anything.

We've not amounted to anything in the last 12-15 years but in the second part of Moyesies 11 years he did try and change the perception of our team. At times we were mainly a team full of grafters and ground out wins but over the years he tried to add a bit of xfactor to the team to try and take us to the next level, players like Arteta, Pienaar, Yakubu, Donovan, Drenthe, Mirallas to name a few and it did improve us but obviously not enough and Martinez tried the same last season by getting Lukaku & Deulofeu in and we had a cracking season and any other season we'd of made the CL and with the finances of that and the pulling power it has for a better class of player, it would of had us one foot on the ladder of where we eventually want to be, and that's trying to get amongst the best in the league and challenging for honours again.

 

[Aidey9]

Why would Lennon want to front up a full back, he has blistering pace and can just knock it and go. Deulofeu can't even make it onto the Sevlle bench now. Deulofeu is not the finished article it's true and this season he has not been an article of any description, 4 assists and 2 goals in a minor cup competition all season. I guess it shows the problems managers have buying players they all have good and bad points.

That's basically what I'm saying. He doesn't even do that which is surprising. If I'm Lennon and got his pace and I know I'm quicker than the FB, id be wanting the ball out wide and I'd get the FB into a position where I can knock it by him and out run him to the byline to be able to get a cross it or cut it back or even get in a position to shoot and he doesn't.

As for Deulofeu I know he's had it tough at Sevilla and he'll learn a lot from that but I saw enough of his talent at us and personally I'd prefer to have him over Lennon. I think Deulofeu's style of play is more suited to the prem than it is la liga. He was a great out ball for quick counters for us as he would stay high up the pitch ready for an out ball, wether that was Howard throwing it or a defender getting rid, but his pace and ability to beat men and eliminate players out of the game when attacking was a big plus for us at times, it opened things up for us in the final third and I do think we've lacked that this season.

 

[Toffeelover]

Why would Lennon want to front up a full back, he has blistering pace and can just knock it and go. Deulofeu can't even make it onto the Sevlle bench now. Deulofeu is not the finished article it's true and this season he has not been an article of any description, 4 assists and 2 goals in a minor cup competition all season. I guess it shows the problems managers have buying players they all have good and bad points.

But Del has the years in front of him which Lennon does not, if building for the future it should be Del not a 28 year old.

 

[Eggs]

Still not convinced with Lennon. He's got great work rate and pace to burn but he doesn't really offer a lot. Watching him in the game yesterday and straight away in the first few mins he got put up one on one against Taylor in the LB spot with space and not once did he attempt to take him on, beat him and put a ball in, instead he tried to curl a cross around the FB and hit him and got a corner.

The only winger I remember who didn't beat FB's but could whip balls around em and into the box was Beckham, and he's no Beckham.

He's got pace but won't front the FB up and take em on and always looks back or goes inside and it slows the momentum of play up. Yesterday, especially first half I felt, he was never really an out ball for Coleman down the line and sometimes he was nowhere to be seen.

I've seen articles through out the season with Martinez talking about how he and Graeme Jones like technical players and wingers that go and front up FB's and take them on and Lennon for me doesn't do this so it'll be interesting to see what they make of him come the end of the season?!

In my personal opinion I'd rather we went and struck a deal with Barca for Deulofeu. Spurs as we all know are tough to deal with when buying or selling and I think they'll want anything from 5 and a bit mill to £7m and for someone knocking on 28 who's not wanted at a club who in my eyes are currently on a par with us level wise and aspirations wise and isn't really that good, then I don't think its a worthwhile deal if I'm honest.

I'd rather we spent that little bit more on Deulofeu. Yes he hasn't got the same work rate as Lennon but this lad can do more damage in a part of the pitch where were crying out for some magic, and that's in the final third! Deulofeu as pace and can beat men for fun and yes, he can be greedy but he's still young and will learn to pick his moments of when to take players on and have shots or cross the ball etc. He's a talent and a work in progress and I'd rather us spend around £10m or whatever on him than the finished article that is Lennon.

....suspect a figure might well have been agreed with Spurs as part of the loan deal, just a matter of whether we want it to happen for that amount.

 

[Toffeelover]

....suspect a figure might well have been agreed with Spurs as part of the loan deal, just a matter of whether we want it to happen for that amount.

You know Eggs i truly hope not.

 

[Eggs]

You know Eggs i truly hope not.

.....might be wrong because it was all last minute, but usually there's an amount agreed if the deal is to be made permanent. As the buying club it means the player can be brilliant and the amount stays the same, or they can be useless and you don't take the option.

 

[Toffeelover]

.....might be wrong because it was all last minute, but usually there's an amount agreed if the deal is to be made permanent. As the buying club it means the player can be brilliant and the amount stays the same, or they can be useless and you don't take the option.

.....might be wrong because it was all last minute, but usually there's an amount agreed if the deal is to be made permanent. As the buying club it means the player can be brilliant and the amount stays the same, or they can be useless and you don't take the option.

Very true, it is a cleft stick.

 

[Aidey9]

....suspect a figure might well have been agreed with Spurs as part of the loan deal, just a matter of whether we want it to happen for that amount.

No doubting there is mate but like you say, after his stint with us it'll come down to wether Martinez feels he's a player to kick us on and make us better long term?!

Personally I don't think he is. But if funds are tight, this might be an avenue we have to go down when recruiting in the summer.

 

[FTY]

....suspect a figure might well have been agreed with Spurs as part of the loan deal, just a matter of whether we want it to happen for that amount.

Yeah his name's Kevin.

 

[moyeslovechild]

lennon & deulo in. Geady out.

Simple.