Current Affairs 2024 POTUS race

[Blue 1]

One thing that seems to have to a great extent flown under is the actions or inactions of certain 'oligarchs' for want of a better word.

Musk openly campaigning for Trump, Zuckerberg deciding to completely sit this one out (backed Biden big time last go round), the owners of at least two of the major newspapers pulling their endorsements.

It's a marked contrast to 2020 when pretty much all the tech guys all the MSM besides Newscorp went against Trump and behind Biden.

Why the change this time around, I'm not buying they suddenly became MAGA supporters or they are all misogynists. So why the sudden pivot during this election?

Money and power. The dems want to regulate them.

Musk is an actual MAGAt though. Radicalised by his own algorithm. The dork.

 

[davek]

One thing that seems to have to a great extent flown under is the actions or inactions of certain 'oligarchs' for want of a better word.

Musk openly campaigning for Trump, Zuckerberg deciding to completely sit this one out (backed Biden big time last go round), the owners of at least two of the major newspapers pulling their endorsements.

It's a marked contrast to 2020 when pretty much all the tech guys all the MSM besides Newscorp went against Trump and behind Biden.

Why the change this time around, I'm not buying they suddenly became MAGA supporters or they are all misogynists. So why the sudden pivot during this election?

The very big hitter endorsement may not have been there, but a shedload of billionaires did back Harris, so I wouldn't say oligarchs as a class deserted her. From Bloomberg...

• Arthur Blank (Atlanta Falcons)
• Michael Bloomberg (Bloomberg, former New York mayor)
• Neil Bluhm (Real estate)
• John Doerr (Kleiner Perkins)
• Amy Goldman Fowler (New York real estate)
• Avram Glazer (Tampa Bay Buccaneers)
• Reid Hoffman (LinkedIn)
• Robert Hale, Jr. (Granite Telecommunications)
• Amos Hostetter, Jr. (Cable)
• Bruce Karsh (Oaktree Capital Management)
• Vinod Khosla (Khosla Ventures)
• Seth Klarman (Baupost)
• Henry Laufer (Renaissance Technologies)
• Stephen Mandel, Jr. (Lone Pine Capital)
• George Marcus (Marcus & Millichap)
• Michael Moritz (Sequoia Capital)
• Dustin Moskovitz (Facebook)
• John Pritzker (Hyatt hotels)
• Haim Saban (Fox Family Channel)
• Sheryl Sandberg (Facebook)
• Eric Schmidt (Google)
• Lynn Schusterman (Samson Resources)
• David Shaw (D.E. Shaw)
• The late Jim Simons (Renaissance Technologies)
• Gwendolyn Sontheim Meyer (Cargill)
• Steven Spielberg (Hollywood director)
• Thomas Steyer (Farallon Capital)
• Pat Stryker (Stryker Corp.)

The following 36 billionaires made between $50,000 and $999,999 in donations to groups supporting Harris through August, according to Forbes’ analysis of FEC data:

• David Blitzer (Blackstone)
• David Bonderman (TPG)
• Edythe Broad (Eli and Edythe Broad Foundation)
• Tory Burch (Tory Burch)
• Rick Caruso (Los Angeles real estate)
• James Chambers (Cox Enterprises)
• Robert Clark (Clayco)
• Barry Diller (IAC)
• Dagmar Dolby (Dolby Laboratories)
• Charles Ergen (DISH)
• John Fish (Suffolk Construction)
• Gordon Getty (Getty Oil)
• James Goodnight (SAS)
• Jonathan Gray (Blackstone)
• Thomas Hagen (Erie Indemnity)
• Reed Hastings (Netflix)
• Elizabeth Johnson (Fidelity Investments)
• Michael Krasny (Computer Discount Warehouse)
• Chris Larsen (Ripple)
• Marc Lasry (Avenue Capital Group)
• Theodore Leonsis (Washington Capitals, Mystics and Wizards)
• Daniel Och (Och-Ziff Capital Management)
• Mark Pincus (Zynga)
• Laurene Powell Jobs (Apple, gave about $900,000 to Harris Victory Fund last quarter)
• Katharine Rayner (Cox Enterprises)
• Stewart Resnick and Lynda Resnick (Wonderful Company)
• John Sall (SAS)
• Paul Sciarra (Pinterest)
• George Soros (Soros Fund Management)
• Jonathan Tisch and Laurie Tisch (Loews Corporation)
• Todd Wagner (Broadcast.com)
• Christy Walton (Walmart)
• Elaine Wynn (Wynn Resorts)
• Dirk Ziff (Ziff Davis).

 

[Groucho]

This will hit some of Trump supporters the hardest.

Well well well, the leopards have come to feast on their faces, and feast they will.

 

[Kever10]

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Any truth in the claim that she has blown through Billion dollar funds and the campaign may be £20m in debt?

Those Beyonce and JLo fees must've been heeeeeeavy.

 

[Groucho]

Look, Americans of this fine forum, if you wanted a mentally unstable person in charge all you had to do was call me, I’m cheaper and we’d have had more fun along the way.

 

[bluestevon]

Kind of ironic, poor American evertonians have finally got the light at the end of the tunnel in the form of Moshiri leaving their club, only to find Trump becoming their president...

 

[Shevin Keedy]

His words could have devastating affects,

Anyone with even the slightest notion of how language works should realise this. Unfortunately, you're probably explaining that to someone who just thinks they do.

Good post.

 

[Blue 1]

Anyone who doubt the agenda of Trump's mob should read Uncle Clarence's concurring opinion on Dobbs.

 

[Yarrgh]

Look, Americans of this fine forum, if you wanted a mentally unstable person in charge all you had to do was call me, I’m cheaper and we’d have had more fun along the way.

And he'll only grab you by he jigsaws ladies.

 

[Kurt.]

 

[LinekersLegs]

Ofc his rhetoric has serious potential consequences.

On Trump I feel half of what he says he actually believes - reckon he still thinks the pets thing was real btw.

But stuff like banning abortion - it's for optics - pretty sure in his past he's probably had first hand experience of paying for one and no chance he's ideologically opposed.
Tariffs on trade - zero chance this will ever happen - but to the people voting him it sounds tough like he will not get pushed around - economically it's a none starter and will never get past the let's look at the numbers phase.

Similarly stuff like ill end this war in a day with two phone calls - sounds good, never gonna happen.

Deport all illegals - again don't happen, he's likely got a long history of his project managers hiring illegal on construction projects or staffing his hotels/casinos etc.

Trump is a salesman, he identified the market and sells ideas or policies he'll never enact - he doesn't need to do it as he's just after the sale (being elected).

Can it have bad effects even though it is hot air - ofc it can, and that's the far bigger worry for me than the 'trumps a fascist' shouts, it's not trump but those who buy into the rhetoric and run with it that are the concern

Yeah, I heard a lot of that in 2016 too - don’t worry love, he won’t do what he says he’ll do.

Apart from the fact we now have many states with limited to no abortion. As we’ve previously discussed it isn’t “optics” that women have died because they couldn’t get healthcare.

We had Muslim bans and kids separated from their parents and never reunited

How a Trump-era policy that separated thousands of migrant families came to pass

The Trump administration's "zero tolerance" immigration policy separated over 5,000 children from their parents, with no tracking process or records that would allow them to be reunited. Atlantic staff writer Caitlin Dickerson joins Geoff Bennett to discuss her investigation into the policy.

www.pbs.org

Trump enacted many tariffs that started trade wars and resulted in huge bailouts being needed for some industries.

Trump Tariff Aid To Farmers Cost More Than U.S. Nuclear Forces

The $28 billion for farmers raises questions about using taxpayer money to shield policymakers from the consequences of tariff increases.

www.forbes.com

And that increased, rather than lowered, consumer prices

Trump's washing machine tariffs are costing Americans almost $100 more per appliance

American manufacturers have also jacked up the cost of their appliances, in order to match the higher price of their competitors.

www.nbcnews.com

So I don’t see a lot of evidence for your claims that it is all for show.

 

[Amw79]

Yeah, I heard a lot of that in 2016 too - don’t worry love, he won’t do what he says he’d do.

Apart from the fact we now have many states with limited to no abortion. As we’ve previously discussed it isn’t “optics” that women have died because they couldn’t get healthcare.

We had Muslim bans and kids separated from their parents and never reunited

How a Trump-era policy that separated thousands of migrant families came to pass

The Trump administration's "zero tolerance" immigration policy separated over 5,000 children from their parents, with no tracking process or records that would allow them to be reunited. Atlantic staff writer Caitlin Dickerson joins Geoff Bennett to discuss her investigation into the policy.

www.pbs.org

Trump enacted many tariffs that started trade wars and resulted in huge bailouts being needed for some industries.

Trump Tariff Aid To Farmers Cost More Than U.S. Nuclear Forces

The $28 billion for farmers raises questions about using taxpayer money to shield policymakers from the consequences of tariff increases.

www.forbes.com

And that increased, rather than lowered, consumer prices

Trump's washing machine tariffs are costing Americans almost $100 more per appliance

American manufacturers have also jacked up the cost of their appliances, in order to match the higher price of their competitors.

www.nbcnews.com

So I don’t see a lot of evidence for your claims that it is all for show.

Basic mistake here LL. You’re trying to judge him on his words and actions.

 

[Groucho]

And he'll only grab you by he jigsaws ladies.

Don’t follow sorry mate.

 

[Yarrgh]

Don’t follow sorry mate.

Well what would Trump grab them by?

Edit: have I got the mods mixed up?

 

[Kever10]

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