Current Affairs 2024 POTUS race

[Lapeno77]

Went up against two strong women and won 'bigly'.

Went up against a scrapper like Biden and lost narrowly.

I think that says it all about the US electorate.

America, for all it's highly lauded ideals remains deeply racist, mysoginist country at its heart.

The overturning of Roe Vs Wade should been the end of the Republicans, never mind Trump. But it passed by with a shrug of the shoulders.

You can only hope that those who stood up to it can find some way of getting through the next 4 years.

 

[TN Toffee]

It came down to the economy...as it always does.

But people paying attention wouldn’t have voted for him on the economy. Elon Musk literally came out and said last week that Americans are going to have to endure economic hardship under a Trump regime. Anyone who has an elementary school level grasp of how tariffs work knew Trump’s plans would be disastrous. “But the economy” was either complete lack of information (very possible for a lot of voters) or convenient cover for not wanting to vote for a black woman IMO.

 

[Mrk]

I find it incredible that any woman or ethnic minority could ever vote for Trump, it absolutely baffles me, but then so did the people in the uk who voted for the blonde haired Buffon Johnson and the Tories.

Crazy times we are living in.

Me too, but this is our problem. We don't want to understand why they vote this way. We want to pretend they're deluded, misinformed or whatever. Until we understand why, we'll continue to lose the argument.

 

[davek]

But people paying attention wouldn’t have voted for him on the economy. Elon Musk literally came out and said last week that Americans are going to have to endure economic hardship under a Trump regime. Anyone who has an elementary school level grasp of how tariffs work knew Trump’s plans would be disastrous. “But the economy” was either complete lack of information (very possible for a lot of voters) or convenient cover for not wanting to vote for a black woman IMO.

They believe that Trump Mk1 was a golden age in terms of standard of living and that he'll make them better off this time.

All about thee sizzle rather than the steak.

 

[FrenchDarrenBent]

Politics hasn't got anything to do with facts or reason, it's all about emotion. He was the charismatic underdog. 70m votes already.

 

[davek]

America, for all it's highly lauded ideals remains deeply racist, mysoginist country at its heart.

The overturning of Roe Vs Wade should been the end of the Republicans, never mind Trump. But it passed by with a shrug of the shoulders.

You can only hope that those who stood up to it can find some way of getting through the next 4 years.

It defo is. It was founded on slavery and it's fault-lines run right through the place still.

 

[TN Toffee]

Me too, but this is our problem. We don't want to understand why they vote this way. We want to pretend they're deluded, misinformed or whatever. Until we understand why, we'll continue to lose the argument.

I think for a lot it’s not an argument that can be won. There are a lot of Fundamentalist Christian zealots who simply believe that women are not meant to hold positions of power. Unless the demographics eventually shift to more European levels of Christianity, I’m not sure a woman will ever be electable to the highest office.

 

[Little Ralphy]

I remember in school a History teacher saying no one will vote for ginger Welshman, regardless of policy. Kamala a non-white woman had very little chance in most of the USA for the same reasons.

 

[NathDogg]

Me too, but this is our problem. We don't want to understand why they vote this way. We want to pretend they're deluded, misinformed or whatever. Until we understand why, we'll continue to lose the argument.

Lack of education and the media spin that people lap up is the why for me.

We see it in this country with that gobshite Farage and useful idiot bongo, whipping up the poorly educated to hate their neighbours of different skin tone, when they should be hating a right wing, establishment, rich arseholes. Inherent rascism.

The fake assassination attempt clearly swing a lot of idiots Trumps way also.

 

[msb]

A grim day for the world seems likely.

How anyone with a brain can vote for that sex offender is beyond comprehension.

 

[tsubaki]

this is exactly why they lost

 

[Groucho]

A quick question for the US members here; why has he been voted in again?

Because it’s obviously not the wisest thing to do.

Your country had a choice between a white male fascist and a black female.

Surely it can’t be as plain and obvious as that? If it is then you have problems that will take decades to clean up. You haven’t made America great again, you’ve severely weakened yourselves in every sense.

 

[Mrbluenose]

Trump, RFK, Musk, Vance. It's like the Avengers of clueless whoppers.

Says some no mark from Liverpool

Wind your neck in idiot.

 

[MichaelEFC96]

Interested to know what this means for Ukraine, Putin won't just come to the table without some sort of compromise on Ukraine's part.

 

[Seanjd]

It defo is. It was founded on slavery and its fault-lines run right through the place still.

The voting system itself is steeped in racism and designed to empower white, racist historically slave owning southern states and still does to this day.