Current Affairs 2024 POTUS race

[Rita_Poon]

Trump and the GOP are the party that want to import more Elon Musks into the country.

You can keep em. !

 

[Kever10]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/

He's a rapist. You don't need to leave the forum, nobody asked you to do that, because everyone knows he wasn't convicted. That doesn't mean he wasn't a rapist. And that doesn't mean you don't support a rapist. Let that sink in.

Thats a civil case nobhead.

What you are saying is, he has the same amount (or fewer) rape convictions as you?

Cool

 

[dublinbluenose]

Thats a civil case nobhead.

What you are saying is, he has the same amount (or fewer) rape convictions as you?

Cool

The state of you

 

[Rita_Poon]

Jesusasaurus, who lies constantly, is getting triggered and setting-up cross-purposed challenges, as if being here "legally" and "having a green card" are somehow at odds with each other. One can be in the USA legally without a green card. Haitians have "lawful immigration status" which to dumb it down for Jesusasaurus means "legal."

Fact check: Are Haitian immigrants in Springfield in the US illegally?

JD Vance says immigrants with temporary protections in Springfield, Ohio, are 'illegal'. Experts say he is wrong.

www.aljazeera.com

Tyrannosaurus-no-sex ?

 

[HSWR]

10 years ago transgender people weren’t a massive target in the culture war. They weren’t being told daily that they are a problem and that most of them just want to invade women’s sports for a sporting advantage. Or bathrooms and jails just so that they can perve on people or rape them. Or that schools are performing transition surgery on them when they go to school.

Do you think that children under the age of 18 can realise they are gay? If so then why can’t a child under 18 realise they are transgender?

Being transgender is not a new thing at all. The vitriol and weaponising it is.

To answer that question quite simply, being gay is nothing comparable to believing you are in the wrong body.

To put it simply, someone who says they are transgender has to be taken on what they think. There is no test, no proof , no science that can determine if they actually are. There is science that disagrees with them sure but we have to go on the basis that they truly are in the wrong body. If you believe something enough you can convince anyone that you truly believe it. Hence the key word here, children, saying something and adults go along with it. Transgender has been a thing for a long time but there have never been so many kids believing it, is it really that implausible to say that not every one is genuine and therefore medical intervention is not the right cause of action?

Whereas being gay I believe is biological, I know there are different trains of thought on the subject but I believe if someone is gay, they are born it. Transgender is someone being born it and deciding at a later date, that was wrong. See the difference there?

 

[HSWR]

The medical intervention always includes full evaluation by psychologist/psychiatrist and well as ongoing counseling and therapy. We don't diagnose and then immediately send you off for surgery or even hormone therapy. It's a process.

This will be my last post on the subject as I am aware it's the wrong thread and this could run on. But if I can ask you a genuine question?

Is it not at all possible that the American healthcare system, the one that charges god knows how much for even the most basic things, could take advantage of this for profit? If you have evaluations, that's money. If you have ongoing councilling/therapy then it's money. The surgery , the treatments , the drugs afterwards, money. If a child believes they are transgender , a lot of people along that process stand to make a lot of money in America for agreeing to it all.

(Given the world healthcare for trans health , can't remember the name, have said numerous things about knowing children don't understand and they knew they are potentially doing harm in the long run, I like to think it's a valid question to ask).

Like I said , last post , apologies for going off topic, just curious whether you believe it is at all possible that American healthcare would profit from it and therefore in some ways, encourage the process, whereas if they said no from day one, it stops that money dead.

 

[Wizard]

To answer that question quite simply, being gay is nothing comparable to believing you are in the wrong body.

To put it simply, someone who says they are transgender has to be taken on what they think. There is no test, no proof , no science that can determine if they actually are. There is science that disagrees with them sure but we have to go on the basis that they truly are in the wrong body. If you believe something enough you can convince anyone that you truly believe it. Hence the key word here, children, saying something and adults go along with it. Transgender has been a thing for a long time but there have never been so many kids believing it, is it really that implausible to say that not every one is genuine and therefore medical intervention is not the right cause of action?

Whereas being gay I believe is biological, I know there are different trains of thought on the subject but I believe if someone is gay, they are born it. Transgender is someone being born it and deciding at a later date, that was wrong. See the difference there?

There is no test, no proof or no science (to use your words) to tell that someone is gay.

Aversion therapy was a big thing when people thought you could simply change someone from being gay. “Pray the gay away” was a popular theory among religious people.

Also, do you really think any adult would actively encourage their (or anyone’s) child to transition given the difficulties they would have to go through?

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

Thats a civil case nobhead.

What you are saying is, he has the same amount (or fewer) rape convictions as you?

Cool

hes raped more people than me though.
Now tell me why you like rapists?

 

[Wizard]

Thats a civil case nobhead.

What you are saying is, he has the same amount (or fewer) rape convictions as you?

Cool

He’s liable for rape. He’s a convicted felon. Both should be disqualifying factors but heyho here we are

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Ok coward, since you didn't want to take the wager let's address this:

Immigrants applying to asylum can only be legal if their asylum is granted which makes up about 10-20% of all asylum requests. Plus, I don't believe people should be able to claim asylum after coming to the country illegally. If somebody wants to claim asylum whilst being legal on a tourist B-2 visa, that's perfectly normal.

You got any evidence those Haitians were legal in Springfield OH? I'm talking green card holders btw.

Trump and the GOP are the party that want to import more Elon Musks into the country.

Import more Elon musks?

Ffs, that’s genuinely the worst endorsement of any thing I have ever heard

Emir, do you genuinely like Elons musk?

 

[trueblue84]

There is no test, no proof or no science (to use your words) to tell that someone is gay.

Aversion therapy was a big thing when people thought you could simply change someone from being gay. “Pray the gay away” was a popular theory among religious people.

Also, do you really think any adult would actively encourage their (or anyone’s) child to transition given the difficulties they would have to go through?

Interestingly, why do all republican men look like the "after" photo in a Christian gay conversion therapy camp leaflet?

Seriously... Google a picture of JD Vance, ted Cruz etc and tell me they couldn't appear in one of those leaflets with the caption "Jesus helped me to pray the gay away".

 

[Wizard]

Oh good, Vance is now going to the trope that Muslim immigrants want to enact Sharia Law everywhere

 

[Kurt.]

Thats a civil case nobhead.

What you are saying is, he has the same amount (or fewer) rape convictions as you?

Cool

*Knobhead

 

[Kever10]

hes raped more people than me though.
Now tell me why you like rapists?

Prove it.

 

[Kever10]

*Knobhead

You're wrong, but carry on.