Current Affairs 2024 POTUS race

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bluestevon said:
Well you didn't see me deriding the poster who said he had did you, so there's your answer.
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see, that's it. Trump would deride someone for taking their kids to drag story hour.
Trump supporters would deride someone for taking their kids to drag story hour,

It's fine when it's not for you, just move on. But what's happening is there are movements to ban it.
People think it's perverse and leads to pedophelia.
People like the guy in the video Kevin posted say "for sure there's gender dysphoria" but then start listing extreme rare cases to make his point.
The whole movement is based around fear and division. And what ends up happening is the kid with gender dysphoria doesn't get treated because everyone in Trumps world thinks drag queens are perverts and warns about perversion and pedophelia. The kid goes untreated because the parents are indoctrinated.
Ban books about trans kids, ban medical interventions for trans kids, eventually ban any mention of Transsexuals. It's erasure.
 
BlueTX said:
As your introduction to the room you labeled those who you believe lack objectivity and balance as "deranged." In your view, that's not an attack. Further, it did not surprise you to find what you found, and therefore, the world is "f****d."

If a Blue walks into a bar and finds it is Red, it's a simple courtesy not to run your mouth at them.
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I labelled the views which formed an overwhelming majority. I didnt attack any individual. Which was my point in the first place.

And i do truly believe the world is f****d. Regardless of the results of this election. Whatever the outcome, it wont stop.
 
@Ruairi77
I'll just put out my POV, if a parent wants to raise his child to hd e certain beliefs, go for it, be that religious, or a belief that gender is fluid.

An issue is take, is when it crosses the line between brainwashing a child - you see it with ultra religious families sometimes - and the kids by and large tend to grow up to be messed up mentally. Similarly if someone for whatever reason here's their kid say they think they are x or y, and they jump into the acceptance of such and almost push the kid down that path, then as in the above it's plain wrong (I'm hoping these instances are way less frequent than it seems (and I suspect that is the case)).

To me that latter behaviour strikes me as a degree of narcissistic behaviour or a new modern age version of Munchausen By Proxy Syndrome on behalf of the parent (usually mother), but a version which in the current climate goes unquestioned.

No doubt I'll be labelled by some now as anti trans, it's an easy label to throw at people, i honestly don't really care if someone feels better by sticking a label on me.

The entire media obsession with it, including it being the new go to thing to be in Hollywood, or for their kids, just feels downright dystopian.
 
bluestevon said:
@Ruairi77
I'll just put out my POV, if a parent wants to raise his child to hd e certain beliefs, go for it, be that religious, or a belief that gender is fluid.

An issue is take, is when it crosses the line between brainwashing a child - you see it with ultra religious families sometimes - and the kids by and large tend to grow up to be messed up mentally. Similarly if someone for whatever reason here's their kid say they think they are x or y, and they jump into the acceptance of such and almost push the kid down that path, then as in the above it's plain wrong (I'm hoping these instances are way less frequent than it seems (and I suspect that is the case)).

To me that latter behaviour strikes me as a degree of narcissistic behaviour or a new modern age version of Munchausen By Proxy Syndrome on behalf of the parent (usually mother), but a version which in the current climate goes unquestioned.

No doubt I'll be labelled by some now as anti trans, it's an easy label to throw at people, i honestly don't really care if someone feels better by sticking a label on me.

The entire media obsession with it, including it being the new go to thing to be in Hollywood, or for their kids, just feels downright dystopian.
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Are you worried they will catch trans?
 
Kever10 said:
I read through and saw the complete lack of objectivity and balance, and as you rightly point out, made a comment on that. I didn't attack anyone, i made a case about the one-sidedness and how this type of discourse is detrimental and sympomatic of the world in general. If someone has a contrary opinion, it's like blood in the water, but if you come in with a contrary opinion, you are equally supposed to try and see the other side 1st and take on board the instilled rhetoric before you open your mouth.
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you said everyone was deranged.

You dont like Farage. Do you think you have FDS?
 
Noisy noise annoys said:
Panto is ace?

It’s about projection- I want my kids to be liberal minded and inclusive so I bring them up that way, others rather the closed minded approach and bring their kids up accordingly

Living your life through your children I guess. Teaching them to be like you
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Always hated panto myself mate, nowt to do with the drag I just found it annoying as hell even as a kid 😂
Also I hate the circus - can't go with the kids the wife takes them as I have a mortal fear of clowns.... No joke.
Don't ike zoos either, especially city zoos, just feel massively sorry for the animals held there, try to take the kids to the reserve type parks instead.

Honestly mate, I'd rather the kids weren't like me, want them trying to be their own and better, but yeah i was brought up to be very open minded (btw i still am in real life if you know me) kids i guess I'm trying to just be good people - still early days but fingers crossed both are heading the right direction 🙏
 
bluestevon said:
@Ruairi77
I'll just put out my POV, if a parent wants to raise his child to hd e certain beliefs, go for it, be that religious, or a belief that gender is fluid.

An issue is take, is when it crosses the line between brainwashing a child - you see it with ultra religious families sometimes - and the kids by and large tend to grow up to be messed up mentally. Similarly if someone for whatever reason here's their kid say they think they are x or y, and they jump into the acceptance of such and almost push the kid down that path, then as in the above it's plain wrong (I'm hoping these instances are way less frequent than it seems (and I suspect that is the case)).

To me that latter behaviour strikes me as a degree of narcissistic behaviour or a new modern age version of Munchausen By Proxy Syndrome on behalf of the parent (usually mother), but a version which in the current climate goes unquestioned.

No doubt I'll be labelled by some now as anti trans, it's an easy label to throw at people, i honestly don't really care if someone feels better by sticking a label on me.

The entire media obsession with it, including it being the new go to thing to be in Hollywood, or for their kids, just feels downright dystopian.
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Ok,
but the whole point is that it's none of your business.
As for the media obsession. Thats mainly Fox, Newsmax, and OANN.
 
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