Current Affairs 2024 POTUS race

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Ruairi77 said:
What's with the snarky response there?
That was a good concise summary.
Biden has done steadily well if not spectacular. He's worked across the aisle as well as keeping the moderates and progressives in his own party from killing each other. He has the respect of the likes of McConnell which, unfortunately, probably goes a long way.
The right can't really go after him on policy so theyre going after his son and the way he carries himself. A fairly clear sign that he's doing ok.
But Walken's right. He's too old and it's a huge cloud over the future of reasonable politics in America.

Joe Biden is the kind of politician you'd love being a UK tory, the ultimate centerist democrat. But unfortunately Murdock is telling you otherwise on the regular so you're not a fan at all.
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Yes, outside the UK media bubble, the consensus is that Biden has done an excellent job. In Europe, the feeling is that while Joe puts the US first (sometimes to the detriment of any notion of a collective "west"), he is at least consistent, rational, and a safe pair of hands. Economically, he has done particularly well. I'd be very surprised if he doesn't win re-election - but his age is definitely against him.
 
Drico said:
Yes, outside the UK media bubble, the consensus is that Biden has done an excellent job. In Europe, the feeling is that while Joe puts the US first (sometimes to the detriment of any notion of a collective "west"), he is at least consistent, rational, and a safe pair of hands. Economically, he has done particularly well. I'd be very surprised if he doesn't win re-election - but his age is definitely against him.
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TBF, he is President of the US. I think any leader of a any country should have that countries interests at the front.
 
EFCthechosenone said:
Warren or Bernie
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As noted by @Ruairi77 , they are no goes this time around. There are other Dems who would be good, the only ones I know of that I think might beat Trump, due to their ability to speak well, master the message and deflect attacks would be Pete B, maybe Kamala Harris, maybe Gavin Newsom.

But Joe is clearly the best choice - he's got the accomplishments, the thick skin and the experience to beat Trump or any other candidate.

The biggest threat in this election, even with Joe running, is the third party risk of a no-labels type of candidate pretending to be the great uniter.
 
MrPerfectNot said:
As noted by @Ruairi77 , they are no goes this time around. There are other Dems who would be good, the only ones I know of that I think might beat Trump, due to their ability to speak well, master the message and deflect attacks would be Pete B, maybe Kamala Harris, maybe Gavin Newsom.

But Joe is clearly the best choice - he's got the accomplishments, the thick skin and the experience to beat Trump or any other candidate.

The biggest threat in this election, even with Joe running, is the third party risk of a no-labels type of candidate pretending to be the great uniter.
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I also think the likes of Jamie Raskin or Chris Murphy would do well but there'll never be a Dem primary unless biden steps down and even then the party would weigh in behind Harris.
 
MrPerfectNot said:
As noted by @Ruairi77 , they are no goes this time around. There are other Dems who would be good, the only ones I know of that I think might beat Trump, due to their ability to speak well, master the message and deflect attacks would be Pete B, maybe Kamala Harris, maybe Gavin Newsom.

But Joe is clearly the best choice - he's got the accomplishments, the thick skin and the experience to beat Trump or any other candidate.

The biggest threat in this election, even with Joe running, is the third party risk of a no-labels type of candidate pretending to be the great uniter.
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Speaking of which I hadn't realized Jill Stein was running Cornel West's campaign

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Why Is the Green Party Like This?

Didn’t it learn anything in 2016?
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The worry from mainstream Dems, of course, is that his celebrity will be enough to eat into the left-liberal voting share and resultingly sweep Republicans back into power. If Cornel West is aware of this concern, he is certainly unafraid of the optics; his 2024 campaign has already recruited Jill Stein, the commonly blamed spoiler of the 2016 election, as its manager. She’ll also be in charge of West’s fundraising and communications for the time being, according to Bloomberg.
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Stein’s newfound Green profile-raising plowed into the much more fraught 2016 election. Beyond Democratic acrimony over her potential to draw disgruntled Sanders voters away from supporting Hillary Clinton against Donald Trump, there were the controversial comments over whether vaccines and Wi-Fi are harmful to children, the remark that Clinton would be likelier than Trump to fuel nuclear armageddon, and the Green Party’s platform endorsement of junk medicinal practices. All this spurred leaders of more successful Green parties in Europe to insist that U.S. Greens needed to ditch Stein if they wished to gain actual power. Americans recall what happened next: Stein garnered about 1.5 million votes in the general election, swooping up numbers in key swing states that exceeded Trump’s margins of victory against Clinton. No, it’s not certain that those Stein voters would’ve gone for Clinton had their preferred candidate not been in the race. But the campaign boosting from Russia-linked social media accounts didn’t help the narrative (or, as Stein characterizes it, “the prevailing mythology”).
 
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