Current Affairs 2024 POTUS race

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A naval blockage? Of Mexico?


What is this supposed to do? Stop the flow of illegal drugs? Not bloody likely.

Does he have plans for internment camps to quell the near-certain internal unrest that would be prompted by an open war? As Frum points out, what would he do about a probable increase of tensions with the PRC resulting from a blockade? If he has that much cash on hand, why does he not have a competent foreign policy staff? Is he employing Liz Truss, or something?

This has to be the most Mickey Mouse campaign conducted by someone with a war chest I have ever seen. One possible explanation is that watchdog groups are fighting him on transferring state PAC money to the federal arena, under McCain-Feingold, precluding him from spending the money until the case resolves.
 
What is this supposed to do? Stop the flow of illegal drugs? Not bloody likely.

Does he have plans for internment camps to quell the near-certain internal unrest that would be prompted by an open war? As Frum points out, what would he do about a probable increase of tensions with the PRC resulting from a blockade? If he has that much cash on hand, why does he not have a competent foreign policy staff? Is he employing Liz Truss, or something?

This has to be the most Mickey Mouse campaign conducted by someone with a war chest I have ever seen. One possible explanation is that watchdog groups are fighting him on transferring state PAC money to the federal arena, under McCain-Feingold, precluding him from spending the money until the case resolves.
Hat tip for the “Mickey Mouse campaign” label!

I find it amazing that this proposal ever made it past a whiteboard brainstorming session even if his foreign policy staff is not fully staffed out yet. Iirc he was formerly a Navy JAG so surely the legal complexities alone should have stangled this idea at birth.
 
Hat tip for the “Mickey Mouse campaign” label!

I find it amazing that this proposal ever made it past a whiteboard brainstorming session even if his foreign policy staff is not fully staffed out yet. Iirc he was formerly a Navy JAG so surely the legal complexities alone should have stangled this idea at birth.
Lindsey Graham was Air Force JAG. I get the feeling they don't get the top tools in the shed.

Also, I didn't even consciously think about that joke.
 

RFK Jr's First Televised Town Hall: 'Our Country Will Start Healing When Govt Tells The Truth'


NewsNation’s 90-minute town hall broadcast live from Chicago Wednesday with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. was an intellectually stimulating and emotionally moving event. Despite the hour of mostly put downs that preceded it (hosted by Chris Cuomo with featured guest Bill O’Reilly) and the half hour of analysis that followed it (Chris Cuomo again with a panel that included Former Wisconsin Republican Gov. Scott Walker – the most fair and objective), Kennedy more than met the challenging questions presented to him by town hall host Elizabeth Vargas and a number of pre-selected Democrat and Independent voters in Chicago, New Hampshire, and South Carolina.
[ZH: Early on he addressed the small elephant in the room - explaining how he came to have a raspy voice, noting a neurological disease in his 40s.]

Even when, near the end, Kennedy countered a particularly obnoxious and challenging gay voter from South Carolina who attempted to get him off stride and sandbag him with a snide accusation, Kennedy pledged his lifelong support of LGBTQ rights (which he described as “LGBQT”) I could sympathize with what Kennedy was trying to do – in essence, to reach out in the darkness. Too bad that he wasn’t asked about his feelings about the current move to give special rights to transgender people, as in allowing them to participate in sporting events with people of the opposite biological sex.

The issues at hand were much larger and more significant as the hour-and-a-half provided Kennedy with time to expand on the points that he’s made in his half dozen live interviews on FOX News since he declared for president two months ago. Thus far, to my knowledge, he has not been invited to appear on CNN or MSNBC.

As in the FOX interviews, Kennedy revealed himself to be a thoughtful, sincere, and passionate man of significant achievement – who himself, as he confided, had endured a 14-year long addiction which he overcame four decades ago. His accomplishments since then have been hardly insubstantial.

After the debate, a complete transcript was not available – only selected excerpts provided to journalists by NewsNation. An article at the channel’s Web site (one of a number) reported the highlights.

Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. would not pledge to support his party’s nominee, stood by his claims about vaccines and announced that “I want my party back” in his first national town hall presented by NewsNation on Wednesday.
“I’m running because I feel like my party has lost its way,” Kennedy told NewsNation’s Elizabeth Vargas.



In order to win the nomination, Kennedy will have to do something no primary challenger has done in modern U.S. history — unseat an incumbent president for their party’s nomination. Right out of the gate, Kennedy declined to take the bait and attack his potential opponents.

Vargas asked Kennedy what he thought of Donald Trump after the former president praised him as a “common sense guy” in a recent interview.
The Democratic hopeful said he’s focused on unity, not division.
“I’m not going to attack other people personally,” he said. “What I’m trying to do in this race is bring people together.”
“You won’t hear me saying bad things about President Biden,” Kennedy said. “I’m not going to attack him as a man.” Instead, Kennedy said he is focused on policy disagreements, such as his differing views on war, censorship and COVID lockdowns.

Kennedy’s comments and particularly his answers to questions seemed incredibly honest and thoughtful – which took some getting used to since this is hardly the domain of almost all major politicians today. For example:

When asked whether he would support the Democratic nominee no matter what, Kennedy declined.
“Of course, I’m not gonna do that,” he said.
Kennedy said he’ll wait to see if the person who emerges from his party is “living up to Democratic values.” Those values, as he described them, include fighting for the middle class, protecting civil liberties and embracing debate. “We need to figure out a way to start talking to each other and start healing each other,” Kennedy said. “This polarization is more dangerous” than at any time since the Civil War, he added.

Regarding Ukraine
(again, almost channeling his late father in 1968 during the height of the Vietnam War), Kennedy said (to paraphrase) that in ten years history will show that our country’s course in encouraging the prolongation of the war in Ukraine would be seen as a failure.
 

RFK Jr's First Televised Town Hall: 'Our Country Will Start Healing When Govt Tells The Truth'


NewsNation’s 90-minute town hall broadcast live from Chicago Wednesday with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. was an intellectually stimulating and emotionally moving event. Despite the hour of mostly put downs that preceded it (hosted by Chris Cuomo with featured guest Bill O’Reilly) and the half hour of analysis that followed it (Chris Cuomo again with a panel that included Former Wisconsin Republican Gov. Scott Walker – the most fair and objective), Kennedy more than met the challenging questions presented to him by town hall host Elizabeth Vargas and a number of pre-selected Democrat and Independent voters in Chicago, New Hampshire, and South Carolina.
[ZH: Early on he addressed the small elephant in the room - explaining how he came to have a raspy voice, noting a neurological disease in his 40s.]

Even when, near the end, Kennedy countered a particularly obnoxious and challenging gay voter from South Carolina who attempted to get him off stride and sandbag him with a snide accusation, Kennedy pledged his lifelong support of LGBTQ rights (which he described as “LGBQT”) I could sympathize with what Kennedy was trying to do – in essence, to reach out in the darkness. Too bad that he wasn’t asked about his feelings about the current move to give special rights to transgender people, as in allowing them to participate in sporting events with people of the opposite biological sex.

The issues at hand were much larger and more significant as the hour-and-a-half provided Kennedy with time to expand on the points that he’s made in his half dozen live interviews on FOX News since he declared for president two months ago. Thus far, to my knowledge, he has not been invited to appear on CNN or MSNBC.

As in the FOX interviews, Kennedy revealed himself to be a thoughtful, sincere, and passionate man of significant achievement – who himself, as he confided, had endured a 14-year long addiction which he overcame four decades ago. His accomplishments since then have been hardly insubstantial.

After the debate, a complete transcript was not available – only selected excerpts provided to journalists by NewsNation. An article at the channel’s Web site (one of a number) reported the highlights.





In order to win the nomination, Kennedy will have to do something no primary challenger has done in modern U.S. history — unseat an incumbent president for their party’s nomination. Right out of the gate, Kennedy declined to take the bait and attack his potential opponents.


“You won’t hear me saying bad things about President Biden,” Kennedy said. “I’m not going to attack him as a man.” Instead, Kennedy said he is focused on policy disagreements, such as his differing views on war, censorship and COVID lockdowns.

Kennedy’s comments and particularly his answers to questions seemed incredibly honest and thoughtful – which took some getting used to since this is hardly the domain of almost all major politicians today. For example:


Kennedy said he’ll wait to see if the person who emerges from his party is “living up to Democratic values.” Those values, as he described them, include fighting for the middle class, protecting civil liberties and embracing debate. “We need to figure out a way to start talking to each other and start healing each other,” Kennedy said. “This polarization is more dangerous” than at any time since the Civil War, he added.

Regarding Ukraine
(again, almost channeling his late father in 1968 during the height of the Vietnam War), Kennedy said (to paraphrase) that in ten years history will show that our country’s course in encouraging the prolongation of the war in Ukraine would be seen as a failure.

Nobody cares jizzstain
 

RFK Jr's First Televised Town Hall: 'Our Country Will Start Healing When Govt Tells The Truth'


NewsNation’s 90-minute town hall broadcast live from Chicago Wednesday with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. was an intellectually stimulating and emotionally moving event. Despite the hour of mostly put downs that preceded it (hosted by Chris Cuomo with featured guest Bill O’Reilly) and the half hour of analysis that followed it (Chris Cuomo again with a panel that included Former Wisconsin Republican Gov. Scott Walker – the most fair and objective), Kennedy more than met the challenging questions presented to him by town hall host Elizabeth Vargas and a number of pre-selected Democrat and Independent voters in Chicago, New Hampshire, and South Carolina.
[ZH: Early on he addressed the small elephant in the room - explaining how he came to have a raspy voice, noting a neurological disease in his 40s.]

Even when, near the end, Kennedy countered a particularly obnoxious and challenging gay voter from South Carolina who attempted to get him off stride and sandbag him with a snide accusation, Kennedy pledged his lifelong support of LGBTQ rights (which he described as “LGBQT”) I could sympathize with what Kennedy was trying to do – in essence, to reach out in the darkness. Too bad that he wasn’t asked about his feelings about the current move to give special rights to transgender people, as in allowing them to participate in sporting events with people of the opposite biological sex.

The issues at hand were much larger and more significant as the hour-and-a-half provided Kennedy with time to expand on the points that he’s made in his half dozen live interviews on FOX News since he declared for president two months ago. Thus far, to my knowledge, he has not been invited to appear on CNN or MSNBC.

As in the FOX interviews, Kennedy revealed himself to be a thoughtful, sincere, and passionate man of significant achievement – who himself, as he confided, had endured a 14-year long addiction which he overcame four decades ago. His accomplishments since then have been hardly insubstantial.

After the debate, a complete transcript was not available – only selected excerpts provided to journalists by NewsNation. An article at the channel’s Web site (one of a number) reported the highlights.





In order to win the nomination, Kennedy will have to do something no primary challenger has done in modern U.S. history — unseat an incumbent president for their party’s nomination. Right out of the gate, Kennedy declined to take the bait and attack his potential opponents.


“You won’t hear me saying bad things about President Biden,” Kennedy said. “I’m not going to attack him as a man.” Instead, Kennedy said he is focused on policy disagreements, such as his differing views on war, censorship and COVID lockdowns.

Kennedy’s comments and particularly his answers to questions seemed incredibly honest and thoughtful – which took some getting used to since this is hardly the domain of almost all major politicians today. For example:


Kennedy said he’ll wait to see if the person who emerges from his party is “living up to Democratic values.” Those values, as he described them, include fighting for the middle class, protecting civil liberties and embracing debate. “We need to figure out a way to start talking to each other and start healing each other,” Kennedy said. “This polarization is more dangerous” than at any time since the Civil War, he added.

Regarding Ukraine
(again, almost channeling his late father in 1968 during the height of the Vietnam War), Kennedy said (to paraphrase) that in ten years history will show that our country’s course in encouraging the prolongation of the war in Ukraine would be seen as a failure.





Wowowowow. HUGE
 

RFK Jr's First Televised Town Hall: 'Our Country Will Start Healing When Govt Tells The Truth'


NewsNation’s 90-minute town hall broadcast live from Chicago Wednesday with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. was an intellectually stimulating and emotionally moving event. Despite the hour of mostly put downs that preceded it (hosted by Chris Cuomo with featured guest Bill O’Reilly) and the half hour of analysis that followed it (Chris Cuomo again with a panel that included Former Wisconsin Republican Gov. Scott Walker – the most fair and objective), Kennedy more than met the challenging questions presented to him by town hall host Elizabeth Vargas and a number of pre-selected Democrat and Independent voters in Chicago, New Hampshire, and South Carolina.
[ZH: Early on he addressed the small elephant in the room - explaining how he came to have a raspy voice, noting a neurological disease in his 40s.]

Even when, near the end, Kennedy countered a particularly obnoxious and challenging gay voter from South Carolina who attempted to get him off stride and sandbag him with a snide accusation, Kennedy pledged his lifelong support of LGBTQ rights (which he described as “LGBQT”) I could sympathize with what Kennedy was trying to do – in essence, to reach out in the darkness. Too bad that he wasn’t asked about his feelings about the current move to give special rights to transgender people, as in allowing them to participate in sporting events with people of the opposite biological sex.

The issues at hand were much larger and more significant as the hour-and-a-half provided Kennedy with time to expand on the points that he’s made in his half dozen live interviews on FOX News since he declared for president two months ago. Thus far, to my knowledge, he has not been invited to appear on CNN or MSNBC.

As in the FOX interviews, Kennedy revealed himself to be a thoughtful, sincere, and passionate man of significant achievement – who himself, as he confided, had endured a 14-year long addiction which he overcame four decades ago. His accomplishments since then have been hardly insubstantial.

After the debate, a complete transcript was not available – only selected excerpts provided to journalists by NewsNation. An article at the channel’s Web site (one of a number) reported the highlights.





In order to win the nomination, Kennedy will have to do something no primary challenger has done in modern U.S. history — unseat an incumbent president for their party’s nomination. Right out of the gate, Kennedy declined to take the bait and attack his potential opponents.


“You won’t hear me saying bad things about President Biden,” Kennedy said. “I’m not going to attack him as a man.” Instead, Kennedy said he is focused on policy disagreements, such as his differing views on war, censorship and COVID lockdowns.

Kennedy’s comments and particularly his answers to questions seemed incredibly honest and thoughtful – which took some getting used to since this is hardly the domain of almost all major politicians today. For example:


Kennedy said he’ll wait to see if the person who emerges from his party is “living up to Democratic values.” Those values, as he described them, include fighting for the middle class, protecting civil liberties and embracing debate. “We need to figure out a way to start talking to each other and start healing each other,” Kennedy said. “This polarization is more dangerous” than at any time since the Civil War, he added.

Regarding Ukraine
(again, almost channeling his late father in 1968 during the height of the Vietnam War), Kennedy said (to paraphrase) that in ten years history will show that our country’s course in encouraging the prolongation of the war in Ukraine would be seen as a failure.


Discredited source. Didn’t read.
 
This could have gone in the Ukraine thread, in a close race Brother West could do some damage to Uncle Joe.

 


And yet he's still toeing the party line on Trump's indictments. The attractiveness to Democrats described by CNN can't last, if he's taking that position. I don't know how much that advantage he could gain by courting Democrats, though, given how the Iowa caucuses work. Participation requires party registration, and while that's not the hardest thing in the world to switch, it requires a level of commitment few people have toward any given political candidate.

He could benefit from the whole fracas over the nominating calendar if he can court Democrats, seeing how the DNC has decided they don't want Iowa batting first in 2024. Iowans are protective and proud of that 'first in nation' status in primary politics. I can imagine party switches motivated by the Republican caucuses being the only one that retain that status, and the Democratic primary being a dead rubber. I also don't care to suggest how large that effect might be.

In a more 'normal' cycle, he's probably the establishment candidate. He's one of the few senators on the Republican side of the aisle these days that is a more traditional relationship builder, who tries to work across the aisle on the issues he cares about. He's also a reliable Republican vote on most everything else. That looks good to party elites in a prospective general election, as it is one way they size up candidate viability in a general relative to their own interests.
 
Christie pulling ahead of desantis in new Hampshire. Could certainly be due to the ugliness of desantis's politics but also that they have seen someone to take on trump
Good.
Now get someone to take on Biden and we might get a proper contest...maybe even some sensible policies, though that might be a bit much to ask for.
 
Good.
Now get someone to take on Biden and we might get a proper contest...maybe even some sensible policies, though that might be a bit much to ask for.
Bidens policies are sensible enough and he has had some good results as a life long and experienced career politician. It's just perhaps not prudent for an 82 year old to be the most important politician on the planet. Out of sheer desperation I'm just hoping its not going to be an anti-science right winger like a Trump or desantis, as a species this next era is too important.
 
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