Current Affairs 2024 POTUS race

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Ruairi77 said:
Right, my point is that she will in Michigan.
A large chunk of those who dont favor her likely favor Whitmer instead but they will vote for her.
There's going to be a few hold outs due to the Gaza war but as has been pointed out a billlion times to you, no Democrat is going to appease them.
They're also not going to vote Trump in protest.
It's politics, the optics of protesters painting HAMAS on statues in DC did the Palestinian cause no favors. There are a lot of idiots out there protesting on both sides. It's only week one but she's done a good job of threading the needle so far.
She needs a peace deal before students get back on campus tho.
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Not going to happen. It's perma-war on Palestinians from the apartheid state.
 
Harris has no biological kids so there has been a focus on Vance's comments about women with no kids not being invested in the future of America to the same level as those with kids. He went on to propose a system where you got extra votes on behalf of your kids. Bonkers stuff.
Anyway, there was obvious ridicule of this and then came the push back from the likes of Kirk and don Jnr. which went along the lines of 'see, he didnt mean women trying to have kids, he just meant women who chose not to have kids'.
Honestly, they are just so so stupid most of the time. Kirk thinks this is a win here.
 
Ruairi77 said:
ok, then she still needs to carefully thread the needle.
I'm not sure what you're looking for here Dave.
I'm not sure what you've been looking for for about a month now.
Is it Newsome, is that what you're looking for?
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...it's a viable candidate to beat Trump.

Harris aint it.

Forget the bounce, she'll be seen as a flawed candidate soon enough.
 
davek said:
You know my view on this: once the novelty wears off Harris's selection the focus will be on her unimpressive record.

It's still Trump's to lose.
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Well it was your view that it was the “moral choice” to not vote for Biden therefore handing Trump a victory so tbh I don’t really see it as much of a change in your position.

And my view is that, after months of being absolutely terrified we were sleep walking into another Trump term, I’m going to enjoy at least a week of positivity! Enjoy your spreading of doom and negativity mate!
 
Ruairi77 said:
Harris has no biological kids so there has been a focus on Vance's comments about women with no kids not being invested in the future of America to the same level as those with kids. He went on to propose a system where you got extra votes on behalf of your kids. Bonkers stuff.
Anyway, there was obvious ridicule of this and then came the push back from the likes of Kirk and don Jnr. which went along the lines of 'see, he didnt mean women trying to have kids, he just meant women who chose not to have kids'.
Honestly, they are just so so stupid most of the time. Kirk thinks this is a win here.
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And apart from the really weird message of “no, it is OK to punish those intentionally childess, we don’t mean those who are accidentally childless” - how do you tell?

Do you have to give your pregnancy miscarriage or IVF records to them before you get to vote?
 
LinekersLegs said:
And apart from the really weird message of “no, it is OK to punish those intentionally childess, we don’t mean those who are accidentally childless” - how do you tell?

Do you have to give your pregnancy miscarriage or IVF records to them before you get to vote?
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he also voted against the senate bill to protect IVF.
He's all over the shop!

I also find it funny that Republicans are losing their minds over Harris and the border czar stuff.
I'm not sure many other than them are that bothered if she was or wasnt called 'border czar'.
'See...See... here and again here, she's referred to as Border czar''. Ok chaps. Thats nice.
 
LinekersLegs said:
And apart from the really weird message of “no, it is OK to punish those intentionally childess, we don’t mean those who are accidentally childless” - how do you tell?

Do you have to give your pregnancy miscarriage or IVF records to them before you get to vote?
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The level to which these people twist themselves in knots to explain any of their positions is quite something to behold
 
LinekersLegs said:
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Absolutely this. DeWine is viewed in these parts as a sane, if not moderate, Republican.

Vance has an identity issue. He's kind of MAGA, but so clearly a fraud that working-class types that care more about economic issues than the MAGA-culture war stuff that went for Trump in 2016 don't really like him. I had read something about Vance going to spend a lot of time in PA over the next few months - he will not be viewed kindly here.
 
Ruairi77 said:
he also voted against the senate bill to protect IVF.
He's all over the shop!

I also find it funny that Republicans are losing their minds over Harris and the border czar stuff.
I'm not sure many other than them are that bothered if she was or wasnt called 'border czar'.
'See...See... here and again here, she's referred to as Border czar''. Ok chaps. Thats nice.
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