Current Affairs 2024 POTUS race

[verreauxi]

I despise Trump but honestly how could you vote for Biden?

With pristine moral certainty. Not because Biden is remotely great or even good, but because Trump is one of the worst people on the planet.

The only question I have when faced with these weird both-sidesism queries is how does not every single sensible person see that, in a committed two party system, Trump is literally one of the worst choices in any election in any country in any time period in a long long time.

More simply: if the choice for you is Trump or Biden, who would you vote for?

 

[jazzy]

With pristine moral certainty. Not because Biden is remotely great or even good, but because Trump is one of the worst people on the planet.

The only question I have when faced with these weird both-sidesism queries is how does not every single sensible person see that, in a committed two party system, Trump is literally one of the worst choices in any election in any country in any time period in a long long time.

More simply: if the choice for you is Trump or Biden, who would you vote for?

If Biden was unchecked I would be very concerned. Fortunately, I guess he would simply be a puppet with someone else's hand up his arse

 

[Walken]

I can't stand the UK tories, but was pleased to see sunak note that power will exchange hands in an orderly manner, I hope it was a nod to those in the states who don't consider trump a threat worth fighting against.

 

[Goat]

Over to you now Murica.

 

[Martin Alvito]

Over to you now Murica.

Post-debate polls are not encouraging. Biden probably needs to be up three nationally, and he's down two or so.

Ipsos did a fun series of polls where they asked voters about several of the possible replacement candidates. The governors (Whitmer, Beshear, Pritzker) all lost convincingly. Harris did not change the situation. Michelle Obama blasted Trump out of the water 50-39.

 

[Goat]

Post-debate polls are not encouraging. Biden probably needs to be up three nationally, and he's down two or so.

Ipsos did a fun series of polls where they asked voters about several of the possible replacement candidates. The governors (Whitmer, Beshear, Pritzker) all lost convincingly. Harris did not change the situation. Michelle Obama blasted Trump out of the water 50-39.

Yeah, its really not looking good over there.

Need Trump to die in the next few months.

 

[Martin Alvito]

Yeah, its really not looking good over there.

Need Trump to die in the next few months.

Still plenty of time on the clock. If we get to September with the polls looking like this, it's time to sweat.

 

[Goat]

Still plenty of time on the clock. If we get to September with the polls looking like this, it's time to sweat.

When the convicted rapist, felon and racist gets linked to child sex offences and the needle doesnt move, thats when you sweat.

 

[edge]

When the convicted rapist, felon and racist gets linked to child sex offences and the needle doesnt move, thats when you sweat.

Need to bin Biden.

 

[Martin Alvito]

When the convicted rapist, felon and racist gets linked to child sex offences and the needle doesnt move, thats when you sweat.

I'm afraid that's just normal over here, now. Anything that lot doesn't want to hear is fake news concocted by mainstream media so cruelly martyring San Donald.

Never mind that those same outlets both rebuilt Trump's fortune and propelled him to victory in 2016. They turned on him because he was doing enough damage to outweigh the positive revenue effects of the clicks. It's not like they make stuff up. None of them wants another Stephen Glass pile-on. WaPo's recent editorial embarassment was bad enough.

 

[Martin Alvito]

Need to bin Biden.

I don't think it's that clear, and polls back that up. He needed to get out of the way before the first of the year, to give candidates time to register in all fifty states and have a legit primary. That was the pathway to a comfortable victory.

It doesn't matter who the Democrats anoint now. Whoever it is will tick off some subset of the Democratic electorate, because they're not someone else and because of how they got there. That's likely to cost more votes than it gains.

 

[edge]

I don't think it's that clear, and polls back that up. He needed to get out of the way before the first of the year, to give candidates time to register in all fifty states and have a legit primary. That was the pathway to a comfortable victory.

It doesn't matter who the Democrats anoint now. Whoever it is will tick off some subset of the Democratic electorate, because they're not someone else and because of how they got there. That's likely to cost more votes than it gains.

He doesn't look capable now never mind in another 4 years.
Surely they can put up somebody better than that?.
He needs to step down for his own good ,doesn't look a well man.

 

[Martin Alvito]

He doesn't look capable now never mind in another 4 years.
Surely they can put up somebody better than that?.
He needs to step down for his own good ,doesn't look a well man.

This is why we have a 25th Amendment. I don't think it's a good look for the Republicans to leave a vegetable in office, so I'm not all that fussed about the 2/3 provision in Section 4.

The only thing that matters this time around, or any time Donald Trump runs, is winning. He has made it quite clear that he will do as much damage as he can to democratic institutions for no better reason than to avoid facing the music for his sins the last time around. Ted Cruz would be a better choice, and that's saying something.

Unfortunately, a sizable fraction of Democratic voters seem unable to grasp this basic fact.

 

[BlueTX]

This is why we have a 25th Amendment. I don't think it's a good look for the Republicans to leave a vegetable in office, so I'm not all that fussed about the 2/3 provision in Section 4.

The only thing that matters this time around, or any time Donald Trump runs, is winning. He has made it quite clear that he will do as much damage as he can to democratic institutions for no better reason than to avoid facing the music for his sins the last time around. Ted Cruz would be a better choice, and that's saying something.

Unfortunately, a sizable fraction of Democratic voters seem unable to grasp this basic fact.

Bolded is one of the most difficult things I've ever acknowledged as true.

And I would not urinate on Ted Cruz if he was on fire.

 

[LinekersLegs]

He doesn't look capable now never mind in another 4 years.
Surely they can put up somebody better than that?.
He needs to step down for his own good ,doesn't look a well man.

At this point the choice is either Biden or Harris. Long thread but this explains some of the issues