Current Affairs 2024 POTUS race

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An FBI official has just testified under oath that the Hunter Biden laptop is legitimate. This, despite 51 senior intelligence officials telling us it was likely a Russian disinformation play. Not only intel officials but also twitter, Facebook, Google etc. One of the oldest newspapers in the US, the NY Post, had it's twitter account locked because they broke the story. Many other accounts were subject to the same censorship.

The most we'll get from the powers that be is a 'whoopsie'.
 
An FBI official has just testified under oath that the Hunter Biden laptop is legitimate. This, despite 51 senior intelligence officials telling us it was likely a Russian disinformation play. Not only intel officials but also twitter, Facebook, Google etc. One of the oldest newspapers in the US, the NY Post, had it's twitter account locked because they broke the story. Many other accounts were subject to the same censorship.

The most we'll get from the powers that be is a 'whoopsie'.
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An FBI official has just testified under oath that the Hunter Biden laptop is legitimate.

Wasn't the end result of all that discussion before that that laptop was genuinely Hunter's, but because it had been through so many unvetted hands since he'd dropped it in at that repair shop there was no way to verify that any of the content on it hadn't been doctored, altered or added to in some way?

So he's testified something that everyone already accepted anyway?

And the trial is about illegally owning a gun, nothing to do with the laptop? It's not exactly make headline news at the moment with the UK general election going on to be honest.
 
Wasn't the end result of all that discussion before that that laptop was genuinely Hunter's, but because it had been through so many unvetted hands since he'd dropped it in at that repair shop there was no way to verify that any of the content on it hadn't been doctored, altered or added to in some way?

So he's testified something that everyone already accepted anyway?

And the trial is about illegally owning a gun, nothing to do with the laptop? It's not exactly make headline news at the moment with the UK general election going on to be honest.


It’s weird that given the narrative that the FBI are part of the deep state, mobilised against Trump, that this FBI agent is a star prosecution witness. Do we now trust the FBI?

There’s a pattern with Trumpers that all these 3 letter government institutions, the justice system and legacy media are corrupt and not be trusted, except when they’re saying something that we agree with, and in those cases we’ll put front and centre the authority of that source “An FBI official has testified under oath…”

For the avoidance of doubt, I’m not calling into question this testimony. I don’t give a sh!t about Hunter Biden and he looks guilty as sin to me.
 
It’s weird that given the narrative that the FBI are part of the deep state, mobilised against Trump, that this FBI agent is a star prosecution witness. Do we now trust the FBI?

I did go and refresh my memory of this whole Hunter thing, and despite people from Twitter at the time saying there was no FBI/government direction in blocking the story being shared, and a Musk-directed probe after the takeover not being able to find any evidence either, it's still clearly a right-wing talking point.

Presumably this is another case where because they "feel" there must have been some corruption it definetly happened, and it's up to any naysayers to provide evidence to the contrary.

In fact an FBI agent involved in the case supposedly gave a sworn statement that the agency had nothing to do with Twitter's decision. No doubt they were one of the "bad" FBI guys that faked Jan 6th and need defunding, not like this new "good" FBI agent who says dopamine-inducing words for the Far Right and is therefore a top patriot bravely going against their Soros-backed bosses.

And likewise, it does seem that Hunter was a very silly lad and owned a thing he shouldn't have owned. I think the whole case speaks to the wider problems that the US has with both drugs and gun ownership, but on the face of it he's seems to have done the crime and should do the time. No doubt at the point the Republicans in Washington will be happy to leave it there and not rake over the coals for anything to link to the POTUS himself.
 
For the avoidance of doubt, I’m not calling into question this testimony. I don’t give a sh!t about Hunter Biden and he looks guilty as sin to me.
We're here because the Trump-appointed judge reviewing the plea deal didn't want to sign off on what the parties agreed for the admission of guilt, which led to hasty renegotiations in the courtroom and the deal's collapse. This behavior by the judge was unusual, but not totally without merit.

So, we're having an actual show trial where the defendant has already admitted guilt. We're doing this because it's the only way the judge can determine a sentence, if prosecution and defense cannot agree (and all trust between the parties is now gone).

It looks likely to lead to a sentence of a low number of months in a minimum security federal pen rather than zero, plus no immunity from future prosecutions by a Trump DoJ that is instructed to pile onto Hunter. Those were the provisions at issue in the deal that fell apart under the judge's scrutiny.
 
An FBI official has just testified under oath that the Hunter Biden laptop is legitimate. This, despite 51 senior intelligence officials telling us it was likely a Russian disinformation play. Not only intel officials but also twitter, Facebook, Google etc. One of the oldest newspapers in the US, the NY Post, had it's twitter account locked because they broke the story. Many other accounts were subject to the same censorship.

The most we'll get from the powers that be is a 'whoopsie'.
The NY Post is a very good paper that upholds traditional american values. Disgraceful.
 
An FBI official has just testified under oath that the Hunter Biden laptop is legitimate. This, despite 51 senior intelligence officials telling us it was likely a Russian disinformation play. Not only intel officials but also twitter, Facebook, Google etc. One of the oldest newspapers in the US, the NY Post, had it's twitter account locked because they broke the story. Many other accounts were subject to the same censorship.

The most we'll get from the powers that be is a 'whoopsie'.
why the actual **** are you still crying about this? Trump got nailed on over 30 charges and the best you can do is Bidens SON and a laptop

Give it up, mate
 
When do the potential independent candidates / Green candidate have to declare their intentions to run?

It'll have a massive impact if Kennedy runs - and others for that matter.
 
When do the potential independent candidates / Green candidate have to declare their intentions to run?

It'll have a massive impact if Kennedy runs - and others for that matter.
It's more a technical question of ballot access. Each of the fifty states has different rules on that one. RFK Jr. is currently in a dispute with Nevada, is on the ballot in something like eighteen other states, and is in the process of gaining access to the ballot in the remaining states.

As a practical matter, his presence on the ballot probably matters in only ten of the fifty states or so. All he can do is tip the election from one major party candidate to the other, unless he can by some miracle get 270 electoral votes.

At his present level of polling, RFK Jr. probably helps Biden. If he starts winning states, that helps Trump if it throws the election to the House of Representatives. 270 is in no way realistic, even if Biden and Trump both die in October.
 
For the record, IF Hunter Biden is found guilty, I pledge to never vote for him to elected office.

See how easy that is?
I'll be waiting for all the republicans trying to square his conviction. They'll end up making him a hero and claiming biden and the deep state sacrificed him to give the trump conviction credibility. Maybe trump will offer to make him his vice president?
 
For the record, IF Hunter Biden is found guilty, I pledge to never vote for him to elected office.

See how easy that is?
yea, me too! He'll never get my vote.

In all seriousness. If he's found guilty of lying on a form to get a gun and gets a ban from gun ownership or some sort of suspended sentence, I'll be ok with that. Sucks for him that he got caught up in political shenanigans (to use a biden term) but he's probably also benefited from his dads status too.
 
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