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Death said:
Obama in a latest interview saying his policies aren’t as different from what the Republicans want and when you get to the governing side of things (after the fake promises election cycle). He has a 70% overlap with republicans.

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It's almost as if the policies don't matter to people and American politics is just blind partisanship
 
Grinch said:
People on both sides agree with alot of stuff together but they have the big outlying issues and thats what people align with. Simple
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i used to feel that way till Trump came along.
He has made the far right acceptable.
We have right wing politicians falling over each other to garner the support of racist, xenophobic, bigots.
The republicans have learned that the only way to keep power is by being submissive to the wealthiest Americans while brainwashing the poorest.
The culmination of this policy is Trump and they lost control of their party.
This country is more divided than ever, there is very little common ground.
The far left here is akin to centrist politics in most civilized countries while the far right has dragged the conversation to a dark and dangerous place.

Take one example, fiscal responsibility, normally in the GOP wheel house but generally aspired to by all, till Trump came along.
The economy has melted like a chocolate tea pot, why? sure the corona virus but also the fact that for 3 years Trump has gutted the safety structures that were there to prevent against economic collapse in an emergency.
His booming economy was paper thin while the rich were encouraged to tear apart the safety net.
Look at the fed. With Trumps thumb on the scales, they hardly touched interest rates in a time of huge prosperity, now in a time of crisis, there's nowhere to go.

I get that Bush and Obama were partizan and divisive and I can see why people voted for them and hated them but Trump is a whole new level of, well, insanity.
The fact that you don't regret your vote in '16, is damning.
You seem like a smart fella who has conservative values which is fine but if you can't see that you're being played by a bunch of crooks who have only their own interests in mind, then we're screwed.

The day conservatives stand up to Trump is the day I might see a glimmer of hope for this country.
 
I hope no progesssives fall for this ‘task force’. Biden has a political record the length of a novel. He’s been in public sphere for-ever. Why pretend we don’t know exactly how this lad will govern?

If anyone is trying to pretend that this AOC, Sanders etc ‘task force’ is going to effect how he governs, I got news for you. Whatever contributions the left makes they will be ignored.

Biden will use it for toilet paper.

Task force more like professional BS committee.

He’s a neo-liberal corporatist, a Tory Democrat if you will. This task force will not change that.

Get him signed on paper to do certain executive orders we want within the first 100 days no bs. Something tangible. Atleast.
 
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Grinch said:
People on both sides agree with alot of stuff together but they have the big outlying issues and thats what people align with. Simple
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The biggest single issue amongst most "Republicans" I know is simple tribalism.

18 women could come out tomorrow with rock-solid evidence proving Cheeto forced them to have abortions and the needle wouldn't move a tick, even amongst Evangelicals. Not one GOP elected official in Washington would call for his resignation.
 
Death said:
I hope no progesssives fall for this ‘task force’. Biden has a political record the length of a novel. He’s been in public sphere for-ever. Why pretend we don’t know exactly how this lad will govern?

If anyone is trying to pretend that this AOC, Sanders etc ‘task force’ is going to effect how he governs, I got news for you. Whatever contributions the left makes they will be ignored.

Biden will use it for toilet paper.

Task force more like professional BS committee.

He’s a neo-liberal corporatist, a Tory Democrat if you will. This task force will not change that.

Get him signed on paper to do certain executive orders we want within the first 100 days no bs. Something tangible. Atleast.
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Jay, stop trying to make “Tory Democrat“ happen, it is not going to happen. ;)
 
Ruairi77 said:
i used to feel that way till Trump came along.
He has made the far right acceptable.
We have right wing politicians falling over each other to garner the support of racist, xenophobic, bigots.
The republicans have learned that the only way to keep power is by being submissive to the wealthiest Americans while brainwashing the poorest.
The culmination of this policy is Trump and they lost control of their party.
This country is more divided than ever, there is very little common ground.
The far left here is akin to centrist politics in most civilized countries while the far right has dragged the conversation to a dark and dangerous place.

Take one example, fiscal responsibility, normally in the GOP wheel house but generally aspired to by all, till Trump came along.
The economy has melted like a chocolate tea pot, why? sure the corona virus but also the fact that for 3 years Trump has gutted the safety structures that were there to prevent against economic collapse in an emergency.
His booming economy was paper thin while the rich were encouraged to tear apart the safety net.
Look at the fed. With Trumps thumb on the scales, they hardly touched interest rates in a time of huge prosperity, now in a time of crisis, there's nowhere to go.

I get that Bush and Obama were partizan and divisive and I can see why people voted for them and hated them but Trump is a whole new level of, well, insanity.
The fact that you don't regret your vote in '16, is damning.
You seem like a smart fella who has conservative values which is fine but if you can't see that you're being played by a bunch of crooks who have only their own interests in mind, then we're screwed.

The day conservatives stand up to Trump is the day I might see a glimmer of hope for this country.
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Hahaha, you ain't going to butter anyone up with that bs. Trump has done exactly what he said he'd do. He has taken action on immigration. He has tried to take action on Obamacare, not his fault the Senate messed it up. He has made NATO allies start paying up so that America doesn't always foot the bill. He has brought NKorea to the table when everyone said it was daft. He tore up NAFTA and renegotiated the trade deal with Canada and Mexico. He tore up TPP which was Obama's baby to make China a world power faster than you can click your fingers. He has taken on China and stopped them from depreciating their currency to rip American manufacturing off. He has destroyed the Islamic State that toxic ideology that Obama allowed to fester.

There's a lot to be happy with that Trump has done. Obama was a huge disappointment by comparison.
 
Prevenger17 said:
It's almost as if the policies don't matter to people and American politics is just blind partisanship
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The worst was that impeachment. It is incredible they [the Dems and the media] thought they could push that through. It was revealing when Project Veritas' undercover reporters were catching out media presenters in face to face discussions where they were saying privately, there's nothing in this at all. Yet it would be covered again and again, dominating press coverage with nothing substantive in the slightest. That Russia stuff was a scandalous waste of time and money. The Dems were asking for Trump's impeachment from the day he was inaugurated. It is the worst example of partisanship I've seen. We even had it here back in Jan before I had my hiatus and some were talking up Russia conspiracies.
 
toffee9 said:
Hahaha, you ain't going to butter anyone up with that bs. Trump has done exactly what he said he'd do. He has taken action on immigration. He has tried to take action on Obamacare, not his fault the Senate messed it up. He has made NATO allies start paying up so that America doesn't always foot the bill. He has brought NKorea to the table when everyone said it was daft. He tore up NAFTA and renegotiated the trade deal with Canada and Mexico. He tore up TPP which was Obama's baby to make China a world power faster than you can click your fingers. He has taken on China and stopped them from depreciating their currency to rip American manufacturing off. He has destroyed the Islamic State that toxic ideology that Obama allowed to fester.

There's a lot to be happy with that Trump has done. Obama was a huge disappointment by comparison.
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What country are you from new guy?
 
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