Current Affairs 2020 Democratic Primary
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I'll take down dat coal powered MG, I tel u Hwat
and get out and campaign for RCV, work hard, get it on the ballot on your state, then when it's on the ballot, make sure people know what it is and aren't scared to to change the system.
But yea, until we overhaul the current system and its incumbent, vote blue no matter who.
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If the last four years have done nothing else, it should be to drum into people that "the system" is something they've deluded themselves into believing exists because the reality - that the world is mostly led by people who are the worst of us - is too scary.
I mean look at Paula Cain-White for example, a woman who by any measure you wish to choose is less Christian than nearly everyone else on Earth (including the non-Christian people) and yet she has achieved "success" because she is enough of a psychopath to stand up every day and con people out of vast sums of money.
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The vote blue no matter who. Only reason why. If it could have been a half middle finger and half thumbs up i would have
I liked the first portion though
ha, thanks I think...The vote blue no matter who. Only reason why. If it could have been a half middle finger and half thumbs up i would have
That swung WAY too far in the other direction imo. If you were accused, you were guilty. Al Franken one case in point. Guy would have been PERFECT to go against Trump but allegations and pressure from a LOT of people made him resign.
At least now theres some semblance of "ok, we need to check this out" instead of one party is right and the other is lying.
Agree that some of it swung too far the other way, I personally don’t think the standard should be “believe anything and everything“ more of a “take accusations seriously and respectfully, investigate and see if can be corroborated in some manner or a pattern of behavior emerges”.
Just don’t think Al Franken is a good example, much as I liked him there were after all 8 accusers with much the same story. There were weaknesses/inconsistency in several of the stories plus some were anonymous which, whilst understandable, brings valid questions about credibility so presented individually they would not have been enough to make me want him to resign. However combined imo they made up a concerning pattern.
I do think however that reasonable people can come to different conclusions based on the same data and how much evidence you require to be tipped from neutral to “suspect there is truth in the charges” is difference for everyone. The key thing I believe is that you try to apply the same standard of evidence to all accusers/accused irrespective of your poltical feelings towards them.
Some of the Al Franken ones were absurd. One was along the lines of "he put his arm around me when I asked to take a selfie!" I mean...yeah, you got to get close to a person in order to take a selfie.
Im not going to say he was railroaded because, frankly(no pun intended), I have no idea. BUT, and this is where I was going back to your first sentence, he himself said "Im calling on the Ethics committee to do an investigation and I stand by their findings". He WANTED people to look in to what he had/had not done and have that be as truth. He never got that chance to as entirely too many people forced him to resign before he could even attempt to clear his name.
Same. If I was American, I don’t know if I could vote for Biden. And I think Trump is a poultice of the highest order.
A Biden presidency is more likely to set up health programs for survivors of sexual and domestic assault.
It is more likely to put in guidelines/procedures where accusations are given a hearing in government/academia/businesses.
Biden is unlikely to use the presidential “bully pulpit” to publicly ridicule and scorn people who come forward as Trump has done on multiple occasions even in situations where Trump himself is not the accused.
I understand that. Just very difficult after reading her account. I probably would vote for Biden but not with any degree of enthusiasm.
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When you don't vote for a lesser evil you're allowing some greater evil supporter's vote to count twice, since yours isn't there to counter it.
Don't think that if you don't vote it means you're not voting, because in effect you're voting for the person you like less.
Don't think that if you don't vote it means you're not voting, because in effect you're voting for the person you like less.
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