Current Affairs 2020 Democratic Primary

[Grinch]

I voted for Elizabeth Warren so no, Biden wasn't my first or second or third choice, but I also think the plans promoted by Warren (or in far less specific terms, Sanders) are to a great extent aspirational; in practical terms, even if Dems controlled the presidency and both houses of Congress, I don't think big ticket left-lib ideas like M4A would find enough support to be passed into law as yet. Keeping them in the platform as intentions, however, will keep them alive as ideas and aspirations that will probably eventually gain enough public favor to be realized as legislation and policy. In light of that, I wouldn't be concerned about Biden going too far left if I were against lefty proposals.

Regardless, I am and have always been a lesser-evil voter, in which frame there's no question in my mind that Biden is far preferable to Trump.

I would've been happy enough to vote for Klobuchar, who seems a very practically minded, non-ideological woman, had she become the nominee. Hearing of how she yelled at an aide for bringing her a salad without a fork and then resorted to eating it with a comb instead will keep her enshrined in my heart forever.

So my vote will be determined by Biden and how far left he wants to go, tax plan, infrastructure, etc. Been very generic besides coming out and saying he wants to take aways guns and Beto will be in charge, and M4A/Higher Education. If he can come back from la la land he will have a chance

 

[Grinch]

That’s just what you want in your main man. We’ll see how much of an expert he is on jobs and trade in the coming months.

Did pretty great for the first 3 years he was in office you must agree? Im sure he will bounce back with a strong push once all these lockdowns are done

 

[Prevenger17]

Did pretty great for the first 3 years he was in office you must agree?

I think you have to look at that in the context of 26 million job losses and a rampant disease he has done nothing to limit (and in fact is culpable for, by undercutting the CDC and pandemic task force over 3 years), his performance has been undeniably the worst of any president in living memory. Now he is advising people to inject themselves with bleach. This is not what presidents do.

 

[SteveSC]

To sum up @Grinch

I have voted both ways
I am neutral
I didn't vote for Trump but many off my friends did

Which then became....

Trump has done a great job
The left are nuts.
Biden is socialist

This is all off your posts summed up.

You contradict yourself several times nor can you make up your mind.

We have seen this before. Trump regret. Try to agree with others to fit in then one day BAM! Trumpis great and you are all snowflakes...

This type of posting is identical to the various types we have seen here before.

Up for debate at the start then they implode.

 

[Grinch]

To sum up @Grinch

I have voted both ways
I am neutral
I didn't vote for Trump but many off my friends did

Which then became....

Trump has done a great job
The left are nuts.
Biden is socialist

This is all off your posts summed up.

You contradict yourself several times nor can you make up your mind.

We have seen this before. Trump regret. Try to agree with others to fit in then one day BAM! Trumpis great and you are all snowflakes...

This type of posting is identical to the various types we have seen here before.

Up for debate at the start then they implode.

LOL! If you pay attention and open your eyes you can see ive been as transparent as anyone. Im independent, voted for many dems and many republicans in Local and national elections, I did vote for trump. Trump has done a great job with the following:

• most 4 million jobs created since election.
• More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
• We have created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since my election.
• Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
• Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.
• New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
• Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
• African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
• Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
• Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
• Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
• Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
• Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
• Under my Administration, veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.
• Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.
• The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans. We are committed to VOCATIONAL education.
• 95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.
• Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year.
• Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.
• As a result of our tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.
• Helped win U.S. bid for the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.
• Helped win U.S.-Mexico-Canada’s united bid for 2026 World Cup.
• Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
• Record number of regulations eliminated.
• Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.
• Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.
• My Administration is providing more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.
• Last month, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. And thanks to our efforts, many drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases.
• We reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars this year alone.
• Signed Right-To-Try legislation.
• Secured $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
• We have reduced high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent during my first year in office.
• Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.
• Increased our coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.
• United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.
• Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.
• Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.
• Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year.
• NATO allies are spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016.
• Process has begun to make the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces.
• Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
• Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
• Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.
• Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
• Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.
• Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.
• Concluded a historic U.S.-Mexico Trade Deal to replace NAFTA. And negotiations with Canada are underway as we speak.
• Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.
• Imposed tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum to protect our national security.
• Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices.
• Net exports are on track to increase by $59 billion this year.
• Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement.

Never mentioned Biden is a socialist but he is trying to lean that way to get the cute little bernie voters to actually show up. And yes the left is kind of crazy.
But hey steve, you know me bud. Continue on your day trying to "prove" your point.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Liz apparently getting laughed at for putting herself forward for VP.

“Getting laughed at”

 

[Death]

“Getting laughed at”ia

Not by progressives. I would like her to be president if not vice. Her intentions seem dubious to me after her behaviour. But by god she’s a million miles better than Biden or any other candidate bar Bern in my opinion.

 

[Ruairi77]

LOL! If you pay attention and open your eyes you can see ive been as transparent as anyone. Im independent, voted for many dems and many republicans in Local and national elections, I did vote for trump. Trump has done a great job with the following:

• most 4 million jobs created since election.
• More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
• We have created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since my election.
• Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
• Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.
• New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
• Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
• African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
• Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
• Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
• Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
• Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
• Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
• Under my Administration, veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.
• Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.
• The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans. We are committed to VOCATIONAL education.
• 95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.
• Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year.
• Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.
• As a result of our tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.
• Helped win U.S. bid for the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.
• Helped win U.S.-Mexico-Canada’s united bid for 2026 World Cup.
• Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
• Record number of regulations eliminated.
• Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.
• Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.
• My Administration is providing more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.
• Last month, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. And thanks to our efforts, many drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases.
• We reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars this year alone.
• Signed Right-To-Try legislation.
• Secured $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
• We have reduced high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent during my first year in office.
• Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.
• Increased our coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.
• United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.
• Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.
• Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.
• Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year.
• NATO allies are spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016.
• Process has begun to make the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces.
• Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
• Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
• Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.
• Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
• Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.
• Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.
• Concluded a historic U.S.-Mexico Trade Deal to replace NAFTA. And negotiations with Canada are underway as we speak.
• Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.
• Imposed tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum to protect our national security.
• Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices.
• Net exports are on track to increase by $59 billion this year.
• Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement.

Never mentioned Biden is a socialist but he is trying to lean that way to get the cute little bernie voters to actually show up. And yes the left is kind of crazy.
But hey steve, you know me bud. Continue on your day trying to "prove" your point.

you agree with all of these but might have voted for Amy Klobichar?
get outta here ya spoofer.

 

[Grinch]

you agree with all of these but might have voted for Amy Klobichar?
get outta here ya spoofer.

She appealed to both sides! Actually really liked her and her plans for prison reform. Hopefully she gives it another go

 

[Ruairi77]

She appealed to both sides! Actually really liked her and her plans for prison reform. Hopefully she gives it another go

so you like rand paul, donald trump and amy klobuchar?

 

[Death]

To sum up @Grinch

I have voted both ways
I am neutral
I didn't vote for Trump but many off my friends did

Which then became....

Trump has done a great job
The left are nuts.
Biden is socialist

This is all off your posts summed up.

You contradict yourself several times nor can you make up your mind.

We have seen this before. Trump regret. Try to agree with others to fit in then one day BAM! Trumpis great and you are all snowflakes...

This type of posting is identical to the various types we have seen here before.

Up for debate at the start then they implode.

Giving Biden the respectable title off socialist is a time-out if ever there was.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Not by progressives. I would like her to be president if not vice. Her intentions seem dubious to me after her behaviour. But by god she’s a million miles better than Biden or any other candidate bar Bern in my opinion.

She’s first choice with both Sanders and Biden supporters.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

so you like rand paul, donald trump and amy klobuchar?

Find it almost more difficult to take seriously someone who likes Rand Paul than someone who likes Trump.

Talk about being exposed as an utterly hypocritical fraud.

 

[Death]

She’s first choice with both Sanders and Biden supporters.

Another one of these polls you got from ‘tell me what I wanna hear’.com is it.

 

[Grinch]

so you like rand paul, donald trump and amy klobuchar?

A man of the people