Warren has called for Trumps impeachment, another tick for her from me! Edit, just saw LLs post
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Did you have too many Guinness like our friend death in the other thread? You did say you needed a drink after going back and forth with him haha!
Haha, I wish, spent about 3 hrs trying to put the young fella to bed.
I genuinely know very little about the guy - is there a specific policy or message that makes you keen on him?
Seems similar to what my lad is doing haha! He's 10 months now and has decided to wake up during the night and then stay up haha!
4 months and not a fan of prolonged sleep!
Seth Moulton announced this morning.
An interesting candidate. A harvard grad who served 4 terms in Iraq. Will appeal to blue collar Dems who feel the party has left them behind but runs in the same lane as mayor Pete who has a lot more traction.
Ran hard against Pelosi becoming speaker again. Managed to pee off a lot of women voters here in mass doing that. They threatened to primary him.
Don't think he'll do anything but he's perfect running mate material.
Biden supposed to announce this week.
An interesting candidate. A harvard grad who served 4 terms in Iraq. Will appeal to blue collar Dems who feel the party has left them behind but runs in the same lane as mayor Pete who has a lot more traction.
Ran hard against Pelosi becoming speaker again. Managed to pee off a lot of women voters here in mass doing that. They threatened to primary him.
Don't think he'll do anything but he's perfect running mate material.
Biden supposed to announce this week.
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on the other hand, Butterjudge is Really Smart, and Beto listened to music in the 90s
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Are you still all in for Bernie?
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As I've mentioned, I prefer Sanders but would be pleased if Warren won. Of course, this is looking unlikely so far (though it's a certainty she would play a major role in any Sanders government).
It is disappointing but not surprising to see her ideas overlooked by candidates offering nothing more than the same tired 'identity politics', in the sense that their own individual identities and biographies are the only form of 'politics' they dare publicly proffer.
Beyond Sanders and Warren, the other candidates represent fundamentally different objectives on behalf of fundamentally different interests, which... I do not support.
There is tendency, in corporate news and thus on here too, to think about and frame the Democratic Primary like it's the Best Actor award at the Oscars, and that they're all substantively similar and all on the same team in the fight against the Very Bad Man.
But what is actually going on is an extremely bitter and increasingly frantic struggle for control of the Party between those who've run it into the ground, creating (and still very much hoping to restore) the status quo that delivered Trump; and those who have better ideas.
The former would rather lose to Trump again than lose to the latter. This is why they are once again scrambling to undermine the overwhelming front-runner (and by far the most popular politician in the country), throwing a procession of curated attempts to embody what the hundred or so Washington- and New York-based political journalists imagine Middle America wants in a candidate against the wall, in the hopes that someone else, anyone else, will stick.
Should they actually pull it off, they'll of course be extremely pleased with themselves, and it could even prove sufficient for the general given Trump's unpopularity (though this is always less certain than the outcome of midterm elections suggests). But it would also represent still more of the short-sighted, narrow-minded and ultimately counter-productive thinking for which the Democratic Party has become so well known of late.
It is a dangerous mistake to presume that Trump arose for no real reason other than dumb luck and Evil; that he is the cause of all America's problems rather than a symptom; and that the forces he has articulated and emboldened will just go away, if we just put someone in the White House who reminds us of that fuzzy patriotic feeling we had while watching The West Wing.
One need only look at Canada or France to see the inevitable failure of dashing media-friendly liberal dreamboats offering the same tired platitudes but changing nothing, and, coming soon, we will also see how consequential their failures can be.
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I think, if anything, the appetite for clear and tangible change is even bigger than the one that was partially responsible for legitimising the Trump campaign in 2016. I hope the Democrats don't make the mistake of thinking that Trump's presidency will be widely viewed as a disaster when people get into those booths, and that any sort of establishment told-you-so candidate will be embraced as a way of resetting the clock. Some of these Democratic candidates suggest to me that a few lessons haven't been learned.
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