Current Affairs 2020 Democratic Primary

[Death]

Have faith in your candidate mate, if Sanders appeal is as big as you believe it is then it will show up at the voting booth.

I do have faith. He will win Super Tuesday regardless I'm sure. I just like speculating on the state of the establishment.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Klobuchar out is expected; the timing is interesting. Bloomberg now well-positioned to disrupt both the primary and the general if he so chooses, though he can never win.



Warren isn't giving up a Senate seat to be his VP. The relationship between the two of them is shot.



Ultimately, he's going to have to appeal to women, minorities and a more moderate electorate than the Democratic primary voters to win. Getting someone to agree to come on board may be harder than it sounds, though. Abelard thinks he can get Baldwin, but with a Senate seat locked down for four years I have a hard time seeing it.

Anybody joining his ticket risks getting PNG'd by the DNC. Someone jumping on board has to have a good relationship with him, a safe seat (but not so safe that the party can easily primary them in the next cycle) and a profile to raise. This is a fairly short list.

I don’t disagree with a lot of what you wrote just don‘t think Gabbard attracts any of the bolded bits - far as I can tell her appeal is limited to Joe Rogan podcast listeners.

 

[LinekersLegs]

how are they arranging all these last minute changes for the primaries? say, will Pete and Amy's names disappear for tomorrow's Super Tuesday ballots? bit technical but I am curious as an outsider

Here in California don’t believe they do

Californians who already voted for Buttigieg or Steyer grapple with desire for a do-over

There's no provision in California election law for a second chance once a ballot has been mailed or cast in person at a polling place or regional vote center.

www.latimes.com

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Trump would roll Biden up and shhhmoke him worse than he did Hill-dawg.

By “worse than he did to Hillary” I assume you mean “lose in every debate and will require Russian interference, persistent email leaks and a woefully timed and judged statement from an FBI Director being indirectly blackmailed by agents in his NY field office Along with institutional and inherent sexism along with an almost Tolkeinesque collection of lies and conspiracy theories in order to eek out a razor thin victory”?

 

[Death]

By “worse than he did to Hillary” I assume you mean “lose in every debate and will require Russian interference, persistent email leaks and a woefully timed and judged statement from an FBI Director being indirectly blackmailed by agents in his NY field office Along with institutional and inherent sexism along with an almost Tolkeinesque collection of lies and conspiracy theories in order to eek out a razor thin victory”?

It’s all conspiracy with you isn’t it.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

It’s all conspiracy with you isn’t it.

Touché

Of course, some things are ACTUALLY conspiracy theories... Unless you reckon Pizzagate was on the level?

 

[abelard]

Warren isn't giving up a Senate seat to be his VP. The relationship between the two of them is shot.

It is, though true to form, Sanders has yet to say an ill word about her.

It's extremely amusing to imagine how GOT's lusty Liz Lads would be reacting right now, were their relative positions reversed.

I don’t disagree with a lot of what you wrote just don‘t think Gabbard attracts any of the bolded bits - far as I can tell her appeal is limited to Joe Rogan podcast listeners.

Yes, this would be suicidal. It would be the Sarah Palin pick, times ten. It would mark the end of the Sanders campaign, then and there. Not even I could justify it.

It is worth recalling that the VP is only an errant heartbeat away from the Presidency, which is... not exactly an idle concern with either of the remaining candidates. This is another reason why, barring fraternities being awarded Electoral College seats, Gabbard is never going to happen.

And in the not at all unlikely event that the winner serves just one term, the Veep is immediately a front runner for succession. This is why someone like Baldwin might happen.

Remember, as our Republican friends have shown, once you've won, the rules all change. Tom Perez is gone on day one if Sanders wins, and the monumental task of converting the Democratic Party from an incompetent patronage scheme into an functioning political organisation is something his base expects more than almost anything else.

^This^, more than anything, is why the DNC and its many lavishly-compensated supplicants have an existential fear of President Sanders, upon pain even of re-electing Donald Trump: Simply put, there is no need for someone like Neera Tanden to sell access and public relations to oil despots, or silence to Michael Bloomberg, in a world where Bernie Sanders is President of the United States.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Yes, this would be suicidal. It would be the Sarah Palin pick, times ten. It would mark the end of the Sanders campaign, then and there. Not even I could justify it.

It is worth recalling that the VP is only an errant heartbeat away from the Presidency, which is... not exactly an idle concern with either of the remaining candidates. This is another reason why, barring fraternities being awarded Electoral College seats, Gabbard is never going to happen.

And in the not at all unlikely event that the winner serves just one term, the Veep is immediately a front runner for succession. This is why someone like Baldwin might happen.

Both very valid points and good analogy in Sarah Palin

 

[sdk]

And call anyone highlighting them a cooke or a tinfoil hat enthusiast.

Nonsense.

I've never called anyone a cooke.

 

[LinekersLegs]

*admits to secretly hoping they are both on stage at some point and have to pretend to like each other

 

[Ruairi77]

By “worse than he did to Hillary” I assume you mean “lose in every debate and will require Russian interference, persistent email leaks and a woefully timed and judged statement from an FBI Director being indirectly blackmailed by agents in his NY field office Along with institutional and inherent sexism along with an almost Tolkeinesque collection of lies and conspiracy theories in order to eek out a razor thin victory”?

all while trailing her by 3m votes

 

[abelard]

Which one of you did this then? ; )

 

[sdk]

It is, though true to form, Sanders has yet to say an ill word about her.

It's extremely amusing to imagine how GOT's lusty Liz Lads would be reacting right now, were their relative positions reversed.

Sanders doesn't have to say mean things about Warren. He allows his online support do his smearing for him and then, if questioned about it, gives a halfhearted disavowal blunted by the claim that they're probably dastardly bots rather than his supporters. Always keeping one eye on that plausible deniability, our Bern.

If Warren and Sanders were in reversed positions right now I'd probably be so stoked that I'd have already started castrating every dude in my neighborhood.

 

[abelard]

Sanders doesn't have to say mean things about Warren. He allows his online support do his smearing for him and then, if questioned about it, gives a halfhearted disavowal blunted by the claim that they're probably dastardly bots rather than his supporters. Always keeping one eye on that plausible deniability, our Bern.

Sure, because it's in his power to personally control what every last person claiming to support him posts online.

If Warren and Sanders were in reversed positions right now I'd probably be so stoked that I'd have already started castrating every dude in my neighborhood.

And in this parallel hellscape, CNN BREAKING NEWS: RAPID WARREN BRO THREATENS MASS DEFIGURATION CAMPAIGN, WHY WON'T SHE DO ANYTHING TO STOP HER SUPPORTERS' TOXIC MASCULINITY????

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

It is, though true to form, Sanders has yet to say an ill word about her.

It's extremely amusing to imagine how GOT's lusty Liz Lads would be reacting right now, were their relative positions reversed.

And here was me thinking it was Trump that murdered irony