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2017 general election

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I don't know much about Venezuela but I'd rather our health care and education be more like Cuba

An article by Lucia Newman......

If there is one thing for which Cuba has received praise over the years, it is the Communist government's state-run healthcare system.

Much of this praise is well-deserved. Despite its scarce resources, Cuba has one of the world's lowest infant mortality rates - just slightly lower than that of the US. Life expectancy is 77.5 years, one of the world's highest. And until not so long ago, there was one doctor for every 170 citizens - the highest patient-per-doctor ratio in the world.

Of course, the government can afford so many doctors because they are paid extremely low salaries by international standards. The average is between $30 and $50 per month.

And the benefits of this healthcare have not only been felt by Cubans.

Under Fidel Castro, the former Cuban president, hundreds of child victims of the Chernobyl nuclear disaster, left without proper medical attention after the collapse of the Soviet Union, were invited to Cuba. A hospital was constructed to treat them while they and their families set up temporary residence in Tarara, a beautiful seaside neighbourhood near Havana. Many remain there today.

Prevention before cure

The Cuban system works - or is supposed to work - by emphasising primary and preventative healthcare.

For any country, but particularly for a poor nation such as Cuba, it is much easier and less expensive to prevent than to cure.

Every square block is assigned a family doctor, or general practitioner, who lives in a small, two-storey house in the neighbourhood. The bottom floor is used to receive patients and the top floor becomes the doctor's living quarters.

He or she ensures that every child receives the proper vaccinations and that every pregnant woman has a monthly check-up, blood tests, and so on.

The doctor can prescribe medicine which, in theory, can be purchased for practically nothing at state-owned pharmacies - the only pharmacies that exist. And if a patient needs more complex care, he or she is referred to a specialist at a public hospital or clinic.

During the period when the Cuban government received generous subsidies from the former Soviet Union, the system more or less worked well. Hospitals were clean and, although they did not have state-of-the-art equipment, people could rely on them.

But after the subsidies ended and Cuba's economy went into a tailspin, nothing was the same again.

Decline

By the time I moved to Cuba in 1997, there were serious shortages of medicine - from simple aspirin to more badly needed drugs.

Ironically, many medicines that cannot be found at a pharmacy are easily bought on the black market. Some doctors, nurses and cleaning staff smuggle the medicine out of the hospitals in a bid to make extra cash.

Although medical attention remains free, many patients did and still do bring their doctors food, money or other gifts to get to the front of the queue or to guarantee an appointment for an X-ray, blood test or operation.

If you do not have a contact or money to pay under the table, the waiting time for all but emergency procedures can be ridiculously long.

Many Cubans complain that top-level government and Communist Party officials have access to VIP health treatment, while ordinary people must queue from dawn for a routine test, with no guarantee that the allotted numbers will not run out before it is their turn.


And while the preventative healthcare system works well for children, women over the age of 40 are being shortchanged because yearly mammograms are not offered to the population at large.

I saw many hospitals where there was often no running water, the toilets did not flush, and the risk of infections - by the hospital's own admission - was extremely high.

Healthcare for hard currency

In all fairness, in the past five years, the government has made great efforts to improve hospitals and health centres, but again, lack of resources is making the process painfully slow.

The system is free, but it is neither fast nor efficient for two important reasons. One is obviously the lack of financial resources, and the other - which is related to the first - is the "export" of doctors, nurses and dentists in exchange for hard currency.

Thousands of Cuban doctors go to Venezuela to provide primary healthcare there. Their tour of duty lasts a minimum of two years and they are paid approximately $50 a month, plus expenses. In exchange, Hugo Chavez, Venezuela's president, sends Cuba petrol, part of which can be sold for hard currency.

When a friend of mine was unable to be operated on as scheduled, because there was no anesthesiologist available, "they are all in Venezuela" was a complaint I regularly heard.

Another way the country is attempting to obtain hard currency is to offer health services to foreigners - something that has been dubbed "health tourism". But some question whether visitors really get what they pay for.

Falling behind

From my experience, there are specialties in which Cuba excels, such as the rehabilitation of patients who have had strokes or are suffering from neurological disorders, such as Parkinson's disease. Patients who go to CIREN (the Centre for Neurological Regeneration) receive personalised care from well-trained therapists.

But the surgery offered to Parkinson’s sufferers is no longer state-of-the-art by any means.

Cuban specialists complain that they do not have the same opportunities to travel, to attend conferences and to read journals on the latest medical advances as their peers in other countries. They feel, probably correctly, that they are falling behind.

Over the years, I have heard many complain about the deteriorating quality of the services offered. One of the problems is that no small number of Cuban doctors have left the country looking for better opportunities abroad. They are considered deserters.

But for all its shortcomings, Cubans do have better access to healthcare than the majority of those living in many "developing nations", where public health is shockingly inadequate.

And as with so many things in Cuba, the state health service offers some amazing paradoxes: you may have problems obtaining medicine, but getting a bust lift, or even a sex change, is no problem, and moreover, it is free of charge.
 
In the old days if you were a gardener or a cleaner working for the council you would have had a solid council wage and council terms and conditions. Now you would be contracted out and on minimum wage with little security.

And some jobs are even worse with zero hours or sweatshop conditions (Amazon, JD Sports, Sports Direct all featured as so in recent documentaries)

So you're not talking about the whole generation then. I do agree with you about some contracting out to unscrupulous companies and zero hours contracts which I think are a disgrace. UK companies and institutions make more than enough money to put people on the payroll properly or ensure that if a process or job is contracted out then outsourced employees retain similar pay and conditions......
 
An article by Lucia Newman......

If there is one thing for which Cuba has received praise over the years, it is the Communist government's state-run healthcare system.

Much of this praise is well-deserved. Despite its scarce resources, Cuba has one of the world's lowest infant mortality rates - just slightly lower than that of the US. Life expectancy is 77.5 years, one of the world's highest. And until not so long ago, there was one doctor for every 170 citizens - the highest patient-per-doctor ratio in the world.

Of course, the government can afford so many doctors because they are paid extremely low salaries by international standards. The average is between $30 and $50 per month.

And the benefits of this healthcare have not only been felt by Cubans.

Under Fidel Castro, the former Cuban president, hundreds of child victims of the Chernobyl nuclear disaster, left without proper medical attention after the collapse of the Soviet Union, were invited to Cuba. A hospital was constructed to treat them while they and their families set up temporary residence in Tarara, a beautiful seaside neighbourhood near Havana. Many remain there today.

Prevention before cure

The Cuban system works - or is supposed to work - by emphasising primary and preventative healthcare.

For any country, but particularly for a poor nation such as Cuba, it is much easier and less expensive to prevent than to cure.

Every square block is assigned a family doctor, or general practitioner, who lives in a small, two-storey house in the neighbourhood. The bottom floor is used to receive patients and the top floor becomes the doctor's living quarters.

He or she ensures that every child receives the proper vaccinations and that every pregnant woman has a monthly check-up, blood tests, and so on.

The doctor can prescribe medicine which, in theory, can be purchased for practically nothing at state-owned pharmacies - the only pharmacies that exist. And if a patient needs more complex care, he or she is referred to a specialist at a public hospital or clinic.

During the period when the Cuban government received generous subsidies from the former Soviet Union, the system more or less worked well. Hospitals were clean and, although they did not have state-of-the-art equipment, people could rely on them.

But after the subsidies ended and Cuba's economy went into a tailspin, nothing was the same again.

Decline

By the time I moved to Cuba in 1997, there were serious shortages of medicine - from simple aspirin to more badly needed drugs.

Ironically, many medicines that cannot be found at a pharmacy are easily bought on the black market. Some doctors, nurses and cleaning staff smuggle the medicine out of the hospitals in a bid to make extra cash.

Although medical attention remains free, many patients did and still do bring their doctors food, money or other gifts to get to the front of the queue or to guarantee an appointment for an X-ray, blood test or operation.

If you do not have a contact or money to pay under the table, the waiting time for all but emergency procedures can be ridiculously long.

Many Cubans complain that top-level government and Communist Party officials have access to VIP health treatment, while ordinary people must queue from dawn for a routine test, with no guarantee that the allotted numbers will not run out before it is their turn.


And while the preventative healthcare system works well for children, women over the age of 40 are being shortchanged because yearly mammograms are not offered to the population at large.

I saw many hospitals where there was often no running water, the toilets did not flush, and the risk of infections - by the hospital's own admission - was extremely high.

Healthcare for hard currency

In all fairness, in the past five years, the government has made great efforts to improve hospitals and health centres, but again, lack of resources is making the process painfully slow.

The system is free, but it is neither fast nor efficient for two important reasons. One is obviously the lack of financial resources, and the other - which is related to the first - is the "export" of doctors, nurses and dentists in exchange for hard currency.

Thousands of Cuban doctors go to Venezuela to provide primary healthcare there. Their tour of duty lasts a minimum of two years and they are paid approximately $50 a month, plus expenses. In exchange, Hugo Chavez, Venezuela's president, sends Cuba petrol, part of which can be sold for hard currency.

When a friend of mine was unable to be operated on as scheduled, because there was no anesthesiologist available, "they are all in Venezuela" was a complaint I regularly heard.

Another way the country is attempting to obtain hard currency is to offer health services to foreigners - something that has been dubbed "health tourism". But some question whether visitors really get what they pay for.

Falling behind

From my experience, there are specialties in which Cuba excels, such as the rehabilitation of patients who have had strokes or are suffering from neurological disorders, such as Parkinson's disease. Patients who go to CIREN (the Centre for Neurological Regeneration) receive personalised care from well-trained therapists.

But the surgery offered to Parkinson’s sufferers is no longer state-of-the-art by any means.

Cuban specialists complain that they do not have the same opportunities to travel, to attend conferences and to read journals on the latest medical advances as their peers in other countries. They feel, probably correctly, that they are falling behind.

Over the years, I have heard many complain about the deteriorating quality of the services offered. One of the problems is that no small number of Cuban doctors have left the country looking for better opportunities abroad. They are considered deserters.

But for all its shortcomings, Cubans do have better access to healthcare than the majority of those living in many "developing nations", where public health is shockingly inadequate.

And as with so many things in Cuba, the state health service offers some amazing paradoxes: you may have problems obtaining medicine, but getting a bust lift, or even a sex change, is no problem, and moreover, it is free of charge.

Good article Pete and I wouldn't want to question any of it as the writer seems to know what she is talking about.

For me though the positive aspects of their healthcare (and also their education) shows what can be possible if these are prioritised at the expense of greed.

I'm not wedded to left-wingism by any means and Singapore, a capitalist country also has many things we can learn from.

I do think that capitalism as practiced by Europe, the US etc is now failing with the consequences I have outlined
 
Good article Pete and I wouldn't want to question any of it as the writer seems to know what she is talking about.

For me though the positive aspects of their healthcare (and also their education) shows what can be possible if these are prioritised at the expense of greed.

I'm not wedded to left-wingism by any means and Singapore, a capitalist country also has many things we can learn from.

I do think that capitalism as practiced by Europe, the US etc is now failing with the consequences I have outlined

But this 'capitalism' continues to provide all of the funding required to make these nations the richest on the planet. There are many things we can learn or even re-learn (remembers when Police actually lived in police houses in neighbourhoods), but without a sensible way of generating money we would just regress.......
 
But this 'capitalism' continues to provide all of the funding required to make these nations the richest on the planet. There are many things we can learn or even re-learn (remembers when Police actually lived in police houses in neighbourhoods), but without a sensible way of generating money we would just regress.......

Not sure Pete. I'm not against trade but reckon how the corporations have been allowed to run things where governments now serve and cow tow to them rather than the other way round is the issue.

Neoliberal globalisation (yes I had to google it) is the name of this system and IMO it is failing an increasing proportion of our populations, hence the reaction against it for Trump, Brexit, Le Pen and Melanchon in France, Syriza in Greece (before the EU got them to conform) and many other countries.

Of course it could all blow over and sort itself out in a few years but doesn't seem to be at the moment
 
The other thing is the financial system we have at the moment. I wont profess to understand the intricacys of it but it's seems to that when people speculate and short term trade on exchange rates and such like that the profits they make are being taken out of the system for everyone else somewhere down the line. And when the trading is corrupt and manipulated then this is even more so.

I really believe there is enough money for good health, education, work and housing for everyone but not when the current practices are allowed to exist
 
Does Uber or Deliveroo provide an important employment opportunity for its workers or does using leverage with government ministers mean that it replaces decent PGO taxi jobs with a race to the bottom minimum wage level job?
 
Do the pharmaceutical companies work to benefit us or themselves?

Do the half a dozen food conglomerates that produce 90% of our food act in the interests of the public or themselves.

When the government does decide it wants to improve the nations health with a sugar tax what happens? The industry lobbies it and it backs down.

In whose interests is the country being run?

The people or the corporations?
 
In Tory Britain, bankers walk off Scot free but vulnerable people get jailed for begging:

Judge jails 'fragile and vulnerable' woman for begging despite her having no lawyer


District judge Philip Mackenzie accuses legal system of 'conspiring against a vulnerable individual' after woman who begged 'for 50p' sentenced with no legal assistance

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District judge Philip Mackenzie said it was "regrettable" that Ms Baker, who cannot read or write, was unable to get legal assistance Getty iStock
A judge who sentenced a “fragile and vulnerable” woman to prison for begging has blasted the legal system after the defendant was unable to access a lawyer.

Marie Baker, 38 and unable to read or write, was sentenced without legal representation to five and a half months for repeatedly breaching an anti-social behaviour injunction aimed at preventing her accosting people in the streets of Worcester and in nearby Malvern.

Sentencing Ms Baker, District judge Philip Mackenzie expressed alarm at the fact that no lawyer could be found to represent her, saying it was "regrettable" that she was unable to get legal assistance.


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“I am disturbed and concerned that Ms Baker attends before me today without the assistance of any public funding or a solicitor,” Judge Mackenzie told the court.

“I am particularly concerned about that because, on any view, Ms Baker is […] a fragile and vulnerable individual and that makes it all the more regrettable that she has not got legal assistance.”

He accused the legal system of “conspiring against a vulnerable individual”, saying it was "wholly unsatisfactory" that she couldn't access the solicitor assistance that she needed.

“I have reached the conclusion that she can have a fair hearing and that every opportunity has been afforded to her to prepare a case with assistance from a solicitor, but through no fault of her own she has not been able to secure that," he said.

“It is wholly unsatisfactory that the system conspires against a vulnerable individual like this, so that she cannot get the legal aid and solicitor assistance that she really needs.”

Leading charity the Howard League for Penal Reform branded Ms Baker's lack of access to legal aid a “damning indictment” of the justice system, saying it was essentially “punishing poverty”.

Andrew Neilson, director of campaigns at the legal campaign group, said: “This is an utterly depressing case which highlights how all too often our courts are dealing with failings in social welfare and punishing poverty and vulnerability.

“It is quite simply a damning indictment of our justice system that a woman recognised by the courts as being 'fragile and vulnerable', with no legal representation, can be imprisoned for 26 weeks for begging for 50p.”

Judge Mackenzie said Ms Baker's begging was not "aggressive" or persistent and that she had “simply asked for 50p”, but said the fact that she had repeatedly breached orders meant a more "significant" penalty was necessary.
Ms Baker claimed she had an alibi and believed CCTV images would prove her account, but she struggled to provide the evidence. She also claimed mistaken identity and said police “had got it in for her” but both were dismissed by the judge.

The Legal Aid Agency said civil cases are entitled to legal aid to pay for representation and that they would consider the judgement.

A spokesperson for the executive agency, which is sponsored by the Ministry of Justice, added: “Our published guidance confirms that cases of this nature are dealt with under criminal legal aid, however civil providers can apply for an individual case contract to carry out these cases where appropriate.”
 
Not sure Pete. I'm not against trade but reckon how the corporations have been allowed to run things where governments now serve and cow tow to them rather than the other way round is the issue.

Neoliberal globalisation (yes I had to google it) is the name of this system and IMO it is failing an increasing proportion of our populations, hence the reaction against it for Trump, Brexit, Le Pen and Melanchon in France, Syriza in Greece (before the EU got them to conform) and many other countries.

Of course it could all blow over and sort itself out in a few years but doesn't seem to be at the moment

I'm not a big fan of globalisation either. It's getting too big and too powerful........it needs a readjustment....
 
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