Current Affairs 2017 General Election

2017 general election

  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 24 6.5%

  • Labour

    Votes: 264 71.0%

  • Tories

    Votes: 41 11.0%

  • Cheese on the ballot paper

    Votes: 35 9.4%

  • SNP

    Votes: 4 1.1%

  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 4 1.1%
  • Total voters
    372
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Armel said:
Was always to be expected that. It's a scramble over here to get some parts of the City. Brussels already has acquired some sort of Lloyds office thing. And there are 5 others who are willing to do similar, no major players. The strategy is clear, focus on the smaller entities; Frankfurt Paris ... are trying to coax the big ones anyway. Amsterdam is enjoying similar succes. I imagine the other northern countries are doing the same.

It fits in the new impetus I'm detecting: the buy European doctrine that's coming about. Loads of socialist parties are adding this to their program, others are becoming more sensitive.

Here for @Bruce Wayne .

http://www.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20170521_02892072
Make no mistake they are a force to be reckoned with.
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Can't read Belgian, but my understanding if I read you correctly is protectionism, but in finance industry it is to be concentrated in the Eurozone as opposed to the wider EU?
If this is the case then surely there will be some backlash from the non-eurozone member states as the subtext is either adopt the Euro (as bad an example of politics overcoming financial sense as has ever been conceived in recent times imho) or become a second rate member?
Perhaps I'm being thicker than usual.
I am a Eurosceptic by nature in case you hadn't noticed!
 
hibbo'sclass said:
Can't read Belgian, but my understanding if I read you correctly is protectionism, but in finance industry it is to be concentrated in the Eurozone as opposed to the wider EU?
If this is the case then surely there will be some backlash from the non-eurozone member states as the subtext is either adopt the Euro (as bad an example of politics overcoming financial sense as has ever been conceived in recent times imho) or become a second rate member?
Perhaps I'm being thicker than usual.
I am a Eurosceptic by nature in case you hadn't noticed!
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As with so much, the EU as an instrument is determined by the political will of its constituents. In itself it's just a tool. It could be used for shared standards, free movement and liberal ends, or it could be used for protectionism and an extended form of nationalism that is anything but positive.
 
Duncan Disordely said:
Election fallout affecting all parties it seems

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Not surprising really. Farron is the biggest hypocrite in politics (an incredible achievement with a the completion he faces) and is neither Liberal or Democratic. It's a farce that he's leader of that party and those who haven't already seen right through him are finally starting to. He managed to be even worse then May during the election and it was only by good fortune, thanks to arena's that didn't want the Tory's in but knew that Labour couldn't win that they weren't wiped out altogether. It's hilarious that he's trying to pass off having eight MP's less then they managed I'm their maiden campaign as some sort of achievement.
 
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hibbo'sclass said:
Can't read Belgian, but my understanding if I read you correctly is protectionism, but in finance industry it is to be concentrated in the Eurozone as opposed to the wider EU?
If this is the case then surely there will be some backlash from the non-eurozone member states as the subtext is either adopt the Euro (as bad an example of politics overcoming financial sense as has ever been conceived in recent times imho) or become a second rate member?
Perhaps I'm being thicker than usual.
I am a Eurosceptic by nature in case you hadn't noticed!
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I wouldn't interpret it like that mate. It's just making best use of the opportunities provided by Brexit. It's more wanting to concentrate the Europe related finance industry in the EU, not just the Euro countries. In practice though it will be the Euro countries since the non euro countries don't really have a finance industry to speak off. There will be no backlash since nothing will change for them. It's logical in a sense; this way they can introduce all the regulation that the UK has always opposed. Wouldn't seek too much financial logic behind it however; in the beginning it will be more expensive I think.

In many ways there are already second rate members, an unfortunate consequence of the quick expansion (we all know who wanted that). This is why I am a proponent of the two tracks strategy the founding countries are proposing. We want more and closer cooperation; it would be in our best interest if we can do that and the other ones can just proceed without blocking anyone.

The article was about the European socialists wanting governments to buy European for at least 50 percent; don't think it will make such a difference since already most of the public procurements are European. It's just symbolic I assume.

PS: There is no Belgian language; there is Dutch, French and German.
 
Armel said:
I wouldn't interpret it like that mate. It's just making best use of the opportunities provided by Brexit. It's more wanting to concentrate the Europe related finance industry in the EU, not just the Euro countries. In practice though it will be the Euro countries since the non euro countries don't really have a finance industry to speak off. There will be no backlash since nothing will change for them. It's logical in a sense; this way they can introduce all the regulation that the UK has always opposed. Wouldn't seek too much financial logic behind it however; in the beginning it will be more expensive I think.

In many ways there are already second rate members, an unfortunate consequence of the quick expansion (we all know who wanted that). This is why I am a proponent of the two tracks strategy the founding countries are proposing. We want more and closer cooperation; it would be in our best interest if we can do that and the other ones can just proceed without blocking anyone.

The article was about the European socialists wanting governments to buy European for at least 50 percent; don't think it will make such a difference since already most of the public procurements are European. It's just symbolic I assume.

PS: There is no Belgian language; there is Dutch, French and German.
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So what is the purpose of the EU if it is a 2 tier system?
I am all for the Common Market that was originally joined, but political and economic union are plain mad.
I don't follow politics in the normal course so I may be wide of the mark, but it is seen as desirable to have a convergence on taxation as well isn't it?
Effectively, unless it is a superstate with complete intergration with all nations immersed and subsumed into the state, it will always be a pipe-dream.
People are people, national interests will always be a factor surely?
Educate me.
 
Duncan Disordely said:
He's just released a statement saying "he can't be a party leader and a faithful Christian". I.e. He can't accept that people who are LGBTQ are normal people and isn't willing to bend on that view.
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Only proves what a complete and utter hypocrite he is. He is of course perfectly entitled to his views, as are we all but when he stands on a platform as the face of the Liberal Democrats it becomes a bit of a joke since he's neither of those things.
 
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