Current Affairs 2017 General Election

2017 general election

  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 24 6.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 264 71.0%
  • Tories

    Votes: 41 11.0%
  • Cheese on the ballot paper

    Votes: 35 9.4%
  • SNP

    Votes: 4 1.1%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 4 1.1%

  • Total voters
    372
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There is nothing to drag out other than the fact they are extremely socially conservative. Extremely.

There's only one party here who's leadership were involved in terror and it's not the DUP.

Loyalist paramilitaries, thankfully, get annihilated when they decide to contest elections.

All today has done is highlighted to me again how completely misinformed people in the mainland are about NI.

TT, are they not backed by the UDA, UDF and the Red Hand Commandos, three prescribed originations under the Terrorism Act of 200?
 
The Ulster Resistance.

No DUP apology for Ulster Resistance, despite gun-running leading to murders
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Ian Paisley pictured with the Red Beret of the Ulster Resistance at a rally in Ballymena, attended by Peter Robinson and Alan Wright Ulster Clubs Chairman. Pacemaker Press Intl
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10:45Monday 13 June 2016

The DUP has insisted that it has consistently opposed law-breaking, following fresh revelations about how a paramilitary group founded by party members had worked with the UVF and UDA to import guns which were subsequently used to murder people.


The Police Ombudsman’s 157-page report into the Loughinisland atrocity, published last week, contains details which reveal that the guns used in that attack were imported into Northern Ireland by Ulster Resistance.

Ulster Resistance had been set up in November 1986 at a rally in the Ulster Hall which was chaired by Sammy Wilson.


It was also addressed by Ian Paisley and Peter Robinson and attended by the Rev Ivan Foster.

Its aim was to “take direct action as and when required” to end the Anglo-Irish Agreement.

The DUP had claimed to have severed links with the group in 1987 after it became clear that it was importing guns.

The Ombudsman’s report reveals police intelligence that in December 1986 – the month after it had been set up by senior DUP figures – senior members of Ulster Resistance began collaborating with the UVF and UDA to jointly import weapons.

It does not state whether the group’s political backers at that point had any knowledge of that activity.

The Ombudsman’s report into the Loughinisland atrocity states that guns which Ulster Resistance helped import were used in at least 70 murders and attempted murders.

It says: “The intelligence picture which emerged pointed to a conspiracy between the Ulster Resistance, UVF and UDA to raise considerable finance for the purchase of firearms in South Africa.”

Based on intelligence, a police officer told the Ombudsman that he believed ‘Person C’ – whom police intelligence linked to the UVF and later to Ulster Resistance – had played a “central” role in an alleged 1984 conspiracy to rob the Northern Bank in Portadown.

The Ombudsman said: “My investigators have seen police intelligence that in December 1986 senior members of the UDA, UVF and Ulster Resistance met to discuss the purchase and importation of arms with funds jointly raised by the three organisations.”

Six months later, the report says that police had intelligence that the three paramilitary groups had “finalised” plans to import £100,000-worth of guns “but that some difficulties had been encountered in raising the necessary funds”.

A month later, in July 1987, the Northern Bank in Portadown was robbed of £325,000 “by and on behalf of the UDA”.

The police had intelligence that “Person C” – who was then with Ulster Resistance – was involved in planning the robbery, which had “improved the funding situation (for Ulster Resistance)”.

When asked by the News Letter if the party would apologise for its role in founding Ulster Resistance, the DUP would only say in a brief statement: “The party’s stance is consistent, that anyone involved in illegal activity should be investigated and face the full weight of the law.”

Government files declassified last year show that the Government feared that the DUP might use Ulster Resistance as ‘shock troops’ during protests against the Anglo-Irish Agreement".

That's the DUP for you. They will certainly come under the spotlight.
 
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/s...ps-5-million-of-taxpayers-money-35121805.html

Government gave UDA-linked groups £5 million of taxpayers' money
Government funds propping up paramilitaries, says MLA as groups with terror ties get £5m

By Ciaran Barnes

October 11 2016

UDA-linked community groups have been handed £5 million from a government kitty that has been compared to a paramilitary slush fund.


A Sunday Life investigation into the controversial Social Investment Fund (SIF) reveals how loyalist paramilitary figures who sit on the quango’s steering panels are demanding — and being given — massive amounts of public money for their pet projects.

Among those with huge influence over how the £80 million SIF budget is allocated is notorious Bangor UDA criminal Dee Stitt, who last week posed for photos with DUP First Minister Arlene Foster.

Other key players include the UDA’s former leader in the Maze Prison and Lisburn commander Adrian Bird, and convicted UDA gunman turned failed DUP council candidate Sam ‘Chalky’ White. All three paramilitaries were appointed to SIF steering panels, which recommend how cash is handed out, with DUP and Sinn Fein approval.

During the past two years Stitt, Bird and White have successfully lobbied for more than £5 million of taxpayers’ cash being spent on UDA-linked projects that pay their wages in Belfast, Lisburn and Bangor.

These include:

  • Charter NI, which counts Stitt, White and east Belfast UDA boss Jimmy ‘Millions’ Birch as senior employees, being asked to manage £1.7 million of SIF cash;
  • The Hanwood Trust, of which Birch is a director, being given more than £125,000 by SIF to make over its headquarters;
  • SIF agreeing to give the Kilcooley Sports Forum, of which Dee Stitt is a senior member, £900,000 to build a football pitch;
  • SIF spending £700,000 on buying a Sandy Row office block, which veteran loyalist Jackie McDonald used to conduct UDA business, and which was gifted to Belfast South Community Resources (BSCR), which he used to work for;
  • The handover of some £1.5 million of SIF money to the Resurgam Trust, of which UDA leader Adrian Bird is a paid director, and on which the ex-UDA prisoner Colin Halliday holds a senior position.
It must be stressed that not everyone in these organisations is a paramilitary, with most staff members being law-abiding and hard-working.

However, there can also be no doubt that each of the groups — Charter NI, The Hanwood Trust, Kilcooley Sports Forum, Belfast South Community Resources, and the Resurgam Trust — have UDA connections through the likes of Stitt, Birch, White, McDonald, Halliday and Bird.

SDLP MLA Claire Hanna last night expressed serious concerns about the handover of £5 million of public SIF cash to UDA-linked projects.

She said: “No matter how much the First Ministers try to brush off legitimate questions about SIF, this is an issue of serious concern.

“There is no openness or transparency about how this money is allocated, or how the multi-layered conflicts of interest have been addressed.”

Mrs Hanna said the SIF fund was “perpetuating the cancer of paramilitarism”, long after terror gangs should have been disbanded.

The South Belfast Assemblywoman also asked: “How can a person affected by paramilitary extortion, racism or drug dealing be expected to trust the same people to address the serious social problems in their neighbourhood? I am quite sure that there are some good people and projects funded by SIF, and it’s disappointing that they are left in the shade of these serious issues around funded paramilitary groups.”

UDA figures were appointed to the powerful SIF steering panels in 2012 following talks between the terror gang and the DUP. The discussions took place after concerns were raised within the party about it losing the working-class loyalist vote.

Later that year, eyebrows were raised when DUP MLA Alex Easton wrote a reference for feared Bangor UDA leader Dee Stitt in support of his application to join the SIF south-east steering panel.

The politician described the convicted gunman, who leads a gang of drug dealers and racketeers, as “outstanding”, although he later said he knew nothing of his paramilitary background.

Stitt, and his overall east Belfast UDA boss Jimmy ‘Millions’ Birch, also talked of their links to the DUP in a 2013 BBC Radio Ulster interview, during which they admitted being terrorists. Stitt confessed: “We’ve been linking into the biggest political party that’s there on the loyalist side.”

The interview took place at the height of the Union flag protests, which the UDA refused to become involved in through fear of upsetting the SIF funding apple-cart.

Another example of the UDA’s growing relationship with the DUP, forged through SIF, was when ex-prisoner Sam ‘Chalky’ White stood for the party in the 2014 council elections. The 58-year-old convicted gunman is a DUP-approved appointee to the SIF east Belfast steering group.

Since the beginning of the year, more than £3.2m of SIF money has been handed out to UDA-linked groups.

On each occasion, DUP First Minister Arlene Foster and senior party figures have posed with known loyalist paramilitaries welcoming the cash injections.

In April, Adrian Bird — the UDA’s Lisburn boss and ex-Maze Prison leader — was pictured next to Mrs Foster celebrating the allocation of £1.5m to his Resurgam project. Also in the image were the DUP MLAs Edwin Poots, Paul Givan, Brenda Hale and Jonathan Craig.

Last week, Mrs Foster was pictured next to UDA boss Dee Stitt welcoming the handover of £1.7 million of SIF cash to Charter NI, of which the paramilitary is chief executive. Photographed with them was DUP councillor Sharon Skillen, who is a big supporter of Charter NI, which was founded to support UDA prisoners.
 
He basically said, you can't be calling Corbyn a terrorist sympathiser and then get into bed with the DUP which is backed by Terrorist organisations.

Labour should now be digging into the closets of those MPs that will try and prop up the Tories and bring it to the forefront before we do this all again.

Unfortunately, Labour don't fight dirty against the Tories. The only ones that have fought dirty have been the Tories and those Blarites in the Labour party that attempted to sabotage Corbyn's campaign with lies, slurs and innuendos. And now they have the brass neck audacity to try and jump on the bandwagon to save their careers.

McDonnell had the chance today to put the boot into the Tory state controlled BBC's bias against the Labour party but didn't. The Tories don't need any invitation to use lies, slurs and innuendos. Labour needs to do the same. The last time the Tories got in bed with the Ulster Unionists in the 1970s they got beat at the next election.
 
Blues

I have no problem with the right of association. As long as you understand that the Orange Order, members of which are very senior in the DUP, bans its members from marrying an RC and even from attending a Mass.

Foster in fairness attended McGuinness ' Requiem and deserves credit for this.

However if you Google what the OO stands for and replace Papist with e.g. Jew or Moslem how would you feel?

The male leaders of DUP are members of the OO.....Foster is a supporter but as said, she went out on a limb for that funeral.

It is what it is but for the PM to say what she said about friends is not good
 
TT, are they not backed by the UDA, UDF and the Red Hand Commandos, three prescribed originations under the Terrorism Act of 200?

There was leaflets passed round a couple of loyalist estates in Belfast were they advised residents to vote DUP last month. More an endorsement to me. And then the party said they didn't want it. But you know what' it's like, politicians are happy enough deep down with votes regardless were they are coming from I'd suspect. For context, my brother got canvassed by SF by a guy called Sean Kelly who planted a bomb in a fish shop and killed half a dozen.

I'm sure if you dig deep enough into near enough everyone here, then you'll find they had some tenuous link to some scumbag. And that's because there is a disproportionately high number of scumbags here.

There's plenty of things people will object to with the DUP. And totally fair, I wouldn't vote them. But the UDA thing is a bit daft. The UDA/UVF have been trying win elections on their own for years and being utterly embarassed. Long may it continue.
 
Unfortunately, Labour don't fight dirty against the Tories. The only ones that have fought dirty have been the Tories and those Blarites in the Labour party that attempted to sabotage Corbyn's campaign with lies, slurs and innuendos. And now they have the brass neck audacity to try and jump on the bandwagon to save their careers.

McDonnell had the chance today to put the boot into the Tory state controlled BBC's bias against the Labour party but didn't. The Tories don't need any invitation to use lies, slurs and innuendos. Labour needs to do the same.
I find it funny this BBC bias thing, when EVERYONE thinks the BBC is biased against them despite their views then perhaps they aren't biased at all?
 
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