Current Affairs 2017 General Election

[tsubaki]

So not ten times more than everyone else then?

Whoops

The leader of the opposition made a third of the Mayor of London's appearance (at that time), and you are using this to defend him?!?!


50 days of Corbyn left

Christ, you are dull. Boris was at the top of official Leave campaign, as you well know. As for Corbyn, my apologies - instead of doing ten times more appearances than anyone else at the top of the Labour Party, he did a shade less than nine times as many.

 

[orly]

Christ, you are dull. Boris was at the top of official Leave campaign, as you well know. As for Corbyn, my apologies - instead of doing ten times more appearances than anyone else at the top of the Labour Party, he did a shade less than nine times as many.

At the top of the Labour party eh, what a barometer that is.

Diane Abbott - who let's be honest only Question Time bother with as she goads the audience with her shouting

John McDonald - the whispering weirdo, who wants to hear from him

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........ who else is there?

50 days til freedom from this lazy lot

 

[tsubaki]

At the top of the Labour party eh, what a barometer that is.

Diane Abbott - who let's be honest only Question Time bother with as she goads the audience with her shouting

John McDonald - the whispering weirdo, who wants to hear from him

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........ who else is there?

50 days til freedom from this lazy lot

er - the then Shadow Foreign Secretary, who led the coup that took place immediately after the referendum result?

 

[orly]

er - the then Shadow Foreign Secretary, who led the coup that took place immediately after the referendum result?

Cor, what a stellar brigade. Makes Cook, Prescott, Brown, Heath, Benn all look mere novices.

Surely we're close to a Labour party golden age with the Beardy Lazy leading the charge.

 

[tsubaki]

Cor, what a stellar brigade. Makes Cook, Prescott, Brown, Heath, Benn all look mere novices.

Surely we're close to a Labour party golden age with the Beardy Lazy leading the charge.

Heath was a Tory.

 

[Tubey]

Yvette Cooper - the most average MP in the world - destroyed Corbyn's entire contribution in this PMQs with one 20 second question.

 

[orly]

Heath was a Tory.

Oh noes, definitely have no political heavys on that side, ever.

Let me ask you a question - do you honestly, honestly believe Jeremy Corbyn could be an effective Prime Minister?

 

[orly]

Yvette Cooper - the most average MP in the world - destroyed Corbyn's entire contribution in this PMQs with one 20 second question.

We'll see plenty of that in the next few weeks - the average rank and file brushing up a bit and embarrassing his 'contributions'

 

[tsubaki]

Oh noes, definitely have no political heavys on that side, ever.

Let me ask you a question - do you honestly, honestly believe Jeremy Corbyn could be an effective Prime Minister?

You selected Edward Heath as the sole Tory representative in a list of Labour heavyweights?

As for Corbyn, yes I do. We seem over the past forty years to have developed the worrying habit in this country of wanting a strong leader in charge, someone willing to do anything to get in power and impose their beliefs on the country.

This demand for a strong leader has led to a series of disasters - Iraq, PFI, rising personal and Government debt, the banking crisis, the looming collapse of the NHS, the demise of the manufacturing sector, worsening terms and conditions of employment and less security, the open criminality of some of the media - and it is not how this country got great. It isn't even how we won both World Wars, though it is how we got into them.

Corbyn has his flaws - but at the end of the day what he wants to do is more likely to put this country back on the right track than anything May will do, or Blair did.

 

[Joey66]

Yvette Cooper - the most average MP in the world - destroyed Corbyn's entire contribution in this PMQs with one 20 second question.

Yes it's the type of question Corbyn should have hit her with straight from the off then again May just batted it away it's a talking shop PMQs Punch and Judy at its worst!

 

[orly]

You selected Edward Heath as the sole Tory representative in a list of Labour heavyweights?

As for Corbyn, yes I do. We seem over the past forty years to have developed the worrying habit in this country of wanting a strong leader in charge, someone willing to do anything to get in power and impose their beliefs on the country.

This demand for a strong leader has led to a series of disasters - Iraq, PFI, rising personal and Government debt, the banking crisis, the looming collapse of the NHS, the demise of the manufacturing sector, worsening terms and conditions of employment and less security, the open criminality of some of the media - and it is not how this country got great. It isn't even how we won both World Wars, though it is how we got into them.

Corbyn has his flaws - but at the end of the day what he wants to do is more likely to put this country back on the right track than anything May will do, or Blair did.

And what would you say is the 'right track'? Not altruistic make-believe, actually measurable success?

 

[tsubaki]

And what would you say is the 'right track'? Not altruistic make-believe, actually measurable success?

People having jobs that offer some degree of stability; homes that people can actually afford; an education system that doesn't put people into fifty grand of debt for an undergraduate degree; a business policy that doesn't reward big firms with tax breaks whilst going after little ones by raising business rates, allowing unfair contract terms* and late payments and finding nothing wrong with scandalous behaviour; a foreign policy that doesn't make the same mistake over, and over, and over again; an NHS that isn't sued by people who want to take its money and deliver substandard service.

* admittedly we await to see whether the 2016 Act actually deals with this

 

[degsy]

So she's exactly like every single politician you'll ever hear, see or meet then?

This mainly.
So is she firming up her base or getting out from under from the faceless men in those smoke filled backrooms who put her in power.
or just getting a contract extension.

 

[orly]

People having jobs that offer some degree of stability; homes that people can actually afford; an education system that doesn't put people into fifty grand of debt for an undergraduate degree; a business policy that doesn't reward big firms with tax breaks whilst going after little ones by raising business rates, allowing unfair contract terms* and late payments and finding nothing wrong with scandalous behaviour; a foreign policy that doesn't make the same mistake over, and over, and over again; an NHS that isn't sued by people who want to take its money and deliver substandard service.

* admittedly we await to see whether the 2016 Act actually deals with this

But most of those are completely intangible.

'Some degree of stability' - what does that mean? What is the life span on that? How would it be implemented?

'homes that people can actually afford' - how is that going to be achieved? House building? Loads of really poor quality 'new homes' that the banks insure themselves against?

Ok, so what would an alternative business policy look like?

The NHS will be sued regardless of Government - and it indemnifies itself against it.

What would this foreign policy look like? Appeasement?

And what would a Corbyn cabinet look like? Abbott as Health Sec? McDonald as Foreign Sec? After that, who else is there?

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

The voters that puzzle me the most are the Lib Dem voters. You obviously don't want the Conservatives to win but your effectively guaranteeing that they will. Ditto for the SNP voters. We keep hearing that Jeremy Corbyn can't win from people but it would be far from impossible if everyone who claims to want the Torries out simply voted for Labour. It comes to this imo, if you don't vote for Labour your effectively voting for a Conservative victory.