Current Affairs 2017 General Election

2017 general election

  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 24 6.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 264 71.0%
  • Tories

    Votes: 41 11.0%
  • Cheese on the ballot paper

    Votes: 35 9.4%
  • SNP

    Votes: 4 1.1%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 4 1.1%

  • Total voters
    372
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Genuine question here that I think provides a lot of insight to the difference between conservatives and liberals..

Why, on social media, do only, and I really do mean ONLY left-leaning people say "Don't forget to vote on Thursday", or "Don't forget to register to vote" ??

It's not like you're bloody likely to "forget" the day of the general election, is it? There is not-so-subtle subtext implied here... it reflects the Leftist mindset of collectivism and the Right mindset of individuality and personal responsibility.
Why are the right so bad at accepting individual responsibility politically then?
 
Genuine question here that I think provides a lot of insight to the difference between conservatives and liberals..

Why, on social media, do only, and I really do mean ONLY left-leaning people say "Don't forget to vote on Thursday", or "Don't forget to register to vote" ??

It's not like you're bloody likely to "forget" the day of the general election, is it? There is not-so-subtle subtext implied here... it reflects the Leftist mindset of collectivism and the Right mindset of individuality and personal responsibility.

Are you deliberately talking nonsense ? It's quite impressive how consistent you're being with it.
 
Genuine question here that I think provides a lot of insight to the difference between conservatives and liberals..

Why, on social media, do only, and I really do mean ONLY left-leaning people say "Don't forget to vote on Thursday", or "Don't forget to register to vote" ??

It's not like you're bloody likely to "forget" the day of the general election, is it? There is not-so-subtle subtext implied here... it reflects the Leftist mindset of collectivism and the Right mindset of individuality and personal responsibility.

DEM ALIENS
 
Just to show you what the NHS is up against, an article from last year:

Virgin Care wins £700m contract to run 200 NHS and social care services

Deal for Bath and north-east Somerset area sparks new fears about private firms’ role in providing publicly funded healthcare




Treatment for people with diabetes will be among the services operated by Virgin Care under the deal. Photograph: Peter Byrne/PA

Denis Campbell Health policy editor

Friday 11 November 2016

Sir Richard Branson’s health firm, Virgin Care, has won a £700m contract to deliver 200 types of NHS and social care services to more than 200,000 people in Bath and north-east Somerset.

The contract, which was approved on Thursday, has sparked new fears about private health firms expanding their role in the provision of publicly funded health services.

Virgin Care has been handed the contract by both Bath and North East Somerset NHS clinical commissioning group and Conservative-led Bath and North East Somerset council. It is worth £70m a year for seven years and the contract includes an option to extend it by another three years at the same price.

It means that from 1 April Virgin Care will become the prime provider of a wide range of care for adults and children. That will include everything from services for those with diabetes, dementia or who have suffered a stroke, as well as people with mental health conditions. It will also cover care of children with learning disabilities and frail, elderly people who are undergoing rehabilitation to enable them to go back to living at home safely after an operation.

NHS campaigners warned that the history of previous privatisations of NHS services in other parts of England may mean the quality of care patients receive drops once Virgin takes over.

“This is obviously part of a big push by Virgin to dominate the supply of community health across England. The experience so far from NHS outsourcing is that companies struggle to deliver the level of service that patients need and make a profit,” said Paul Evans, co-ordinator of the NHS Support Federation, which monitors NHS contracts being awarded to firms such as Virgin.

“In too many instances outsourced healthcare has resulted in care being compromised to cuts costs. Patients need secure services that they can trust and rely on,” Evans added.

The collapse of the £725m UnitingCare contract in Cambridgeshire meant Virgin’s newly acquired contract would be the most lucrative ongoing deal for providing NHS care, he said.

Eleanor Jackson, a Labour member of Bath and North East Somerset council, told the Mirror she was “horrified” by the decision. “Make no mistake about it, what has happened here is the beginning of the privatisation of the NHS in this country. Woe betide you getting ill in this area if you are old, disabled or have learning difficulties in the next seven years. It is just a horrifying decision,” she said.

There are concerns that handing the work to Virgin Care will take important income away from the many local NHS, voluntary, charitable and housing bodies that currently provide some of the services. They include the Royal United hospitals Bath NHS foundation trust, Great Western hospitals NHS foundation trust and the Avon and Wiltshire mental health partnership NHS trust. Charities affected include Age UK’s Bath branch and the Alzheimer’s Society.

Virgin will also run the urgent care facility at Paulton community hospital, which is 12 miles from Bath, and subcontract a number of other services to other providers, including the provision of dementia and end of life care and a “hospital from home” service for recently discharged patients.

“I am pleased that we can now start the process of transferring services. Following extensive consultation with local people and a very rigorous procurement process, the CCG board is assured that Virgin Care is the right organisation to deliver the personalised and preventative care that local people have asked for,” said Dr Ian Orpen, the clinical chair of Bath and North East Somerset clinical commissioning group.

“We will be working closely with the council and our new partners, Virgin Care, over the coming months to ensure that services and staff are transferred across safely on 1 April 2017 and to minimise disruption to the care and support that people currently receive.”

A spokesman for Virgin Care said: “We are really pleased to have been chosen by the council and CCG to deliver more joined-up care for people across Bath and north-east Somerset. We have a strong track record over the last decade of overseeing integration and improvement of NHS services across England and we’re looking forward to working with the many outstanding professionals, and a range of great partners, to provide and oversee high quality, easy-to-navigate services which are shaped by the people who use them.”


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Now call me cynical but two things spring to mind:

1. Shifty Branson would not be moving into health care unless there was serious money to be made. Money which is, de facto, diverted away from the NHS into the pockets of the wealthy.

2. Let's look at Virgin's record. Fancy a Virgin Cola while we do? We could listen to Virgin Radio and maybe play some Virgin Games and buy some Virgin Cosmetics. Oh, hang on......
 
Fair enough mate. I can't knock you for getting annoyed with politicians, they annoy me to this day (even the ones I don't mind annoy me!). I just think sometimes younger people can be their own worse enemys though lack of interest, if you don't vote when you have the chance at 18, you've got to live with the effect of the decision made without you for up to five years. More should be done to educate younger people on the importance of voting and more should be done to encourage then to try making the own politically view points, not their parents or teachers, their own.

Absolutely agree.
 

We can look forward to this if he gets elected.

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