Current Affairs 2017 General Election

[Minimeister]

I'm not sure I'm quite grasping the tenor of your post, particularly the bold part, but I will try to answer anyway.

It is deliberate, the understaffing of the NHS? I cannot make complete sense of your last sentence, as 'will have to fund' runs on from the bold part above. Please explain further...

It was sarcasm aimed at a previous poster claiming the NHS was somehow deliberately understaffing itself mate. I agreed with every word you said.

 

[Old Blue 2]

It was sarcasm aimed at a previous poster claiming the NHS was somehow deliberately understaffing itself mate. I agreed with every word you said.

I see, understood now...

 

[Minimeister]

I see, understood now...

I'm not very good at debating mate. My point was because of Hunt there is now half the junior doctor posts filled in the North West. Either the NHS run with that or they have to use agency staff to fill the gaps. The junior doctor contract is just another Tory decision swept under the carpet that will cause absolute chaos for the NHS.

 

[zzr45]

It was sarcasm aimed at a previous poster claiming the NHS was somehow deliberately understaffing itself mate. I agreed with every word you said.

Not like there's form of it happening is there -
http://www.midweekherald.co.uk/news/nhs-accused-of-penny-pinching-over-maternity-services-1-455758
http://www.wounds-uk.com/journal-articles/patients-will-pay-for-nhs-short-sighted-penny-pinching
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/nhs-changes-must-not-seen-2013076

It's understaffing itself to save money on paper so a desk jockey can pat themselves on the back. It shouldn't be forced to.

 

[Old Blue 2]

Not like there's form of it happening is there -
http://www.midweekherald.co.uk/news/nhs-accused-of-penny-pinching-over-maternity-services-1-455758
http://www.wounds-uk.com/journal-articles/patients-will-pay-for-nhs-short-sighted-penny-pinching
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/nhs-changes-must-not-seen-2013076

It's understaffing itself to save money on paper so a desk jockey can pat themselves on the back. It shouldn't be forced to.

Have you ever had responsibility for budgets, and the requirement to remain within them? And those budgets insufficient for the required duties to be carried out across a whole fiscal year...?

 

[evilwebby]

I wish their supporters would just say they agree with benefits being slashed and the policies the Tories follow instead of the fantasy scare stories they create to justify it.

I don't have a problem with that; I agree with benefits being slashed.

 

[zzr45]

Have you ever had responsibility for budgets, and the requirement to remain within them? And those budgets insufficient for the required duties to be carried out across a whole fiscal year...?

No I haven't. But I'm pretty sure I'm saying the same thing as you - the budgets aren't sufficient which leads to 'solutions' like agency staff.

 

[Donald Twain]

 

[tadao]

You started by stating that nuclear weapons stopped 'major conflicts', not true. As far as the rant about world wars goes, one side of the world, the US attacked a country on the other side of the world. Move all the goalposts you like there has been millions and millions of deaths due to major conflict since 1945 that weren't stopped because of nuclear weapons.

An absolutely absurd thing to say that 'nuclear weapons have saved lives'. Where? In Asia? No. In Africa? No. In the Middle East? No. In Europe? No. All those continents have had 'major conflicts', that nuclear weapons have not stopped.

By the time the US, China, Russia, France and others have all 'pressed the button', would you be bothered about who 'won'? I'd be more concerned about trying to keep my kids alive somehow. I'm guessing the people in the US, China, Russia, France and others will be doing the same?

 

[Old Blue 2]

No I haven't. But I'm pretty sure I'm saying the same thing as you - the budgets aren't sufficient which leads to 'solutions' like agency staff.

Exactly. As a Manager in the civil service I had many a run-in with my senior officer over the year's funding, what that meant in staffing terms, and the duties required to be carried out. His solution was to under-staff in the first part of the financial year in my Command, and recruit in the latter half, which meant by the end of the year I would come in under, or just on, budget. By doing that, he was recruiting at the lowest pay points, and those recruits would have to go through 12 weeks of training, which meant I was paying for them out of my budget with no return in the training period whatsoever (the training budget was not 'detached' from Manager's budgets).

You wouldn't believe the crap I saw, and had to deal with, from above, and I'm not just saying that for effect...

 

[Boss_Blue]

I don't have a problem with that; I agree with benefits being slashed.

I admire your honesty you despicable human being.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I admire your honesty you despicable human being.

Leave out the insults please.

 

[Groucho]

No I haven't. But I'm pretty sure I'm saying the same thing as you - the budgets aren't sufficient which leads to 'solutions' like agency staff.

With the silly thing being that agency staff cost more per hour then contracted staff.

In my near two decades in the healthcare/medical sector (both private & NHS) that always struck me as odd.

For me, with my NHS hat on, agency staff are great in an emergency but shouldn't be viewed as a long term fix - if we can afford regular agency staff, then employ a permanent staff member.

 

[orchard]

 

[Boss_Blue]

Leave out the insults please.

I admire your commitment to moderating you drug taking, Tory lunatic.







*legs it